I can't be the only one that finds some shit still way overvalued. I'm never gonna pay more than $1500 a share for AMZN or GOOG. Wouldn't touch NVDA until $120. TSLA wouldn't touch until $300. Idk. I feel like overall so many companies got way out of control the past few years when fundamentally they have barely changed.

1. 5% of the max loss to the account, so it will restrict the stocks that can be traded. If you sell a put on a $50 stock, this is $5K "max loss" or 5% of a $100K account. If the stock drops to zero then you are only out 5% of your account and can trade another day. When I started out I was keeping stocks in the $10 to $50 range so I could make a number of trades across a diverse number of companies. As my account grew I am now able to trade up to about $150 stocks. I would much rather have a lot of smaller wins than one big loss that can kill an account.
2. Wheeling AMZN? Holy crap batman! At over $2,000 per share, this would require $200K to take the assignment of 1 put contract! I think this is reckless and would never trade this or any other stocks at this price without a multi-million dollar account. AMZN just dropped $1,200 from around $3200 so it is possible to have hundreds of thousands tied up for a long time. You do you, but stocks at this level are out of my league.
3. I've posted how I roll . . . ;-D https://www.reddit.com/r/Optionswheel/comments/lliy8x/rolling_short_puts_to_avoid_assignment/
4. Rolling more often than usual, but that can happen even in a steady market sometimes. I was moving opening trades closer to 30ish DTE but am now moving them back out to longer dates closer to or around 45 dte. This brings in more premium at a farther OTM strike so gives some more buffer for when the markets move. Another thing is opening more trades on high quality stocks as the prices are so low, this is actually a great time to wheel!

People can not even purchase formula to keep their babies nourished and bulls are still going to wondering why AMZN won't hold 2000.

Amzn after hour spikes are killing me.

They’re finishing up a huge spend cycle. PE isn’t really a good metric for AMZN because they’ve spent ungodly amounts of money in the last 12 months reinvesting in their core business and r&d. Agreed retail is a shit, but AWS is one of the greatest businesses ever created. I commented this earlier but AWS will do $100 billion in revenue this year at 35% margins and will CAGR 15-20% over the next decade, we’re still in the first inning of cloud.

Glad I closed out fairly early today on TSLA AMZN GOOGL puts. I even bought some further out expiration on the mini mooning last in trading day. Will officially post gains tomorrow when fidelity updates and shows on graph. Total closed out gains was $107,356

if that happens i'm selling my house and going all in on amzn

>FANG+ Constituents: >$AAPL 140.67 -1.7% $AMZN 2084.5 -3.09% $BABA 82.8 -4.96% $BIDU 115.23 -6.95% $FB 181.64 -7.45% $GOOG 2123 -4.94% $NFLX 180.3 -3.79% $NVDA 161.84 -4.25% $TSLA 628.79 -6.86% $MSFT 260.5 -0.07% >$TWTR 36 -4.91%

^IGSquawk ^@IGSquawk ^at ^2022-05-24 ^16:14:21 ^EDT-0400

Keep forgetting to buy puts for CMG been so preoccupied with AMZN TSLA and GOOGL

>google fell madly by 8%,
>
>fb fell madly by 10%,
>
>amzn fell 5.8%,

This is start of the panic.

>Amazon Quietly Axed Millions of Square Feet of Warehouse Space: Information $AMZN

^*Walter ^Bloomberg ^@DeItaone ^at ^2022-05-24 ^15:57:35 ^EDT-0400

>You're looking at two market crashes and deciding that the numbers you saw there are properties of all market crashes that might happen for the foreseeable future.

I think data-only guys in equity markets will suffer from the same data-only analysts in the NBA.

Just like how 538 is used to make hot takes and get clowned on because they look only at regular season or pre-existing data with 0 context. And don't realize the reason for the warrior's poor regular season performance, Klay Thompson was injured instead of a regular season scrub who's not taking up playoff minutes, the value of championship experience, a strong organization at their backs with great leadership, absolute intangibles for Curry, etcetc.

This idea would apply even more so to the markets where there are a near infinite number of factors and things not factored into pricing. What if China invades Taiwan? What if Biden has a heart attack? What if Putin gets assassinated? What if it turns out that AMZN has been buying shares of SNAP for take over? What if BRK-A turns out to be engaging in accounting fraud? What happens if a nuclear explosion occurs in Japan? What if a China's economy goes into free fall? Alternatively what if Xi gets replaced or 0 covid is rolled back? What if JJJs decide that they don't have to be as hawkish and allow inflation to stay hot at around 5% so long as it is not spiraling upwards and out of control?

The numbers don't lie, but numbers are just numbers without context.

Generally a bad comparison IMO. AMZN can dump 8% and SPY 1.3% and it doesent really indicate anything. Only comparison with SPY should be long term

amzn biontech boeing

> This is a good time to accumulate stocks paying high dividends.

> watching AMZN drop every day

> I’ll get a nice deposit into my cash account

Excuse me, but you are telling people to buy Amazon to earn dividend income when they don't pay dividends.

DKNG is the AMZN of casinos and gambling.

Hell, DKNG could be worth more than FAANG combined!

TrIlLiOn DoLlAr InDuStRy DiSrUpToR.

amzn then tsla. EV def the new tech but can tsla be the next aapl? idk

No, sorry. I think there is a AMZN meeting is tomorrow, the split is June 6th. My bad.

AMZN stock split is tomorrow, right? Can that save it from continuing to get destroyed?

All these headlines pointing to SNAP when talking about GOOG and FB is like talking about declining sales at Royal Farms as an excuse to sell AMZN and AAPL.

How much farther can AMZN and GOOG fall before the stock split. Let’s gooooo

amzn for sure

Amzn or googl? Which will dip below $2k first?

>My dude... dividends are about capital allocation. If a company believes it can generate higher returns with its money invested in itself

A company always thinks it can generate more money investing in itself then paying dividends.

But, that means the only way a shareholder makes money is if they sell and lock in gains. Which is why some of the best stocks are Volatile stocks. People who are stuck in a stock that they can never sell because it only goes up and doesn't pay dividends are basically passive investors. 401k types and Pension funds. Hell half of those people probably do not even know they are losing their ass right now.

Paying dividends keeps the investor around. it attracts other investors and it gives good protection against people that want to overshort a company. People are much less inclined to sell their stock if they are taking home a chunk of the money every quarter.

So, in my mind once you reach the level of FB or AMZN or a number of faang stocks and you do not pay dividends you are just a POS. If anything they deserve to loss marketshare.

>Also, remember that a stock price doesn't go down unless someone actually buys it at that lower price.

Hedgefunds ping pong off one another all the time. So, I do not know what you are trying to make with that argument.

> don't know much either. I just know that if you give me your trade ideas, I'd probably inverse them all ;)

Put everything in FB and see if I care. I am just giving you two cents. I will laugh when it hits 40 before it bounces.

From a financial position as a company FB has a lot of wiggle room. But, there is nothing stopping it from falling. Also, they are a Social media platform no body wants to use. How many bots are on facebook right now deceiving the advertising into thinking 100k people are seeing their ad when only 1000 people are seeing it. What happens to their revenue when they find out. No one uses facebook that I know. People laugh at Zuckerberg. No one I know likes the metaverse. I can not think of one thing I like about FB accept that fact that it has money in the bank. But, it will not use it until the numbers get real low.

> I no longer experience the stress of watching AMZN drop every day because I know at the end of the quarter I’ll get a nice deposit into my cash account

AMZN doesn't pay a dividend.

Buying or selling amzn at 2k?

Liquidate. If you're down big on positions like amzn, msft or goog, or any other big valuable company, I would hold them. Anything speculative, not profitable or too high of PE I would sell. But I already did that a couple weeks ago because I think it's going down more.

The reintroduction of bond yields and interest rates is going to further erode asset valuations. There's gonna be a lot of chop, but it's worth thinking about, that 6 months ago, the 1-yr treasuries had a return of .2%. It's now 2.1%, which is like the expected return a company with a P/E of 50. So you now literally have a financial option where, if you're willing to put money away for 1 year, you are guaranteed to get the same as a flat returning P/E of 50.

The historical average for 1 year bonds is 2.9%, which further compresses the guaranteed rate of return down to a p/e of 35. The entire story is bond yields driven by QT and interest rate increases. In 1981, the 1 year treasury was at 17%, making it speculative to even consider companies with forward p/e greater than 5. Interest rates are like gravity for equities. If we go back to, or exceed the long term average, expect companies to have forward p/e ratios down below 20 to be considered worth the risk.

I picked goog and msft of faamg. Way less exposed to economic slowdown than amzn (and way more reasonably priced than aapl), they both actually make money with their primary business so won't need to slow down cloud growth like amzn will.

AMZN vs GOOG what's a better buy?

At what level is AMZN a buy

jeff bezos cashed out $300m of AMZN, so he could go to the strip club with bill gates

• reuters

scalped AMZN 2100c round 2 for a total profit of $1250. had earlier scalped the same strike for $850x3. took lotto 2000p

Amzn actually hates its employees

Better yet AMZN employees get only 2% vested first year 😂😂😭

Amzn has always been set for June.

amzn 2k put has to be free right

What happened to stock splits of AMZN and GOOG? They both said they would but didn't. No wonder we are crashing.

buying an itm amzn put and an itm googl call cant go tits up right.

AMZN stock split next Friday, I'm going to sell so many covered calls 🤡

AMZN puts were free money at 2100

I remember when AMZN was supposed to run to 4k

Here is the play.

TSLA PUTS,

GME CALLS

TWTR PUTS

AMZN PUTS

AMZN about to exit the trillion club

When the Mayans predicted doomsday 2012 it wasn’t the year, it was AMZN price.

What do you think about buying long calls on TSLA, which recently fell a lot, along with AAPL or AMZN. All good foundations, but TSLA was always kind of volatile. But nonetheless I think all of these will return to previous values and beyond.

Amzn: “I don’t even who you are”

Nice! I haven’t made it that far yet. I had 2 TSLA and 1 AMZN put that I sold this morning made lik 6k. Kept the GOOG call small, paid a little less than 2k for it.

AMZN too, it's new and a small part but that might still hurt them a bit.

Amzn is looking rough outside AWS. their retail business is being hit by opex that is ballooning out of control. Amzn management didnt forecast demand well and hired too much staff and drained too much capex into fulfillment / warehouse shit.

i hold amzn. getting smoked now. i wouldnt add new money here. google / fb much better buys imo.

How about AMZN for a good entry, think it will go sub $2000?

I wanna buy 5 shares of either AMZN or GOOGL before they split in order to sell calls on them. Which one would you choose? Or neither?

AMZN Aug 2018 price is a hair less than today

Someone make me feel good about my amzn puts. I already watched a 100% gain disappear.

not scared to buy back in then again I haven't been a knob jockey in a long time. I closed out 95% of my accounts roughly 2 months ago. "You should hold and as prices lower buy back in" motto I don't subscribe to when I feel like this is a more than 50% probably this has a lot more ways to drop.

As a result I decided to buy puts worst case they don't print and stocks rebound and I can buy back in with minimal losses. Well those prints kept printing, and printing and printing.

Happiest selling NVDA GOOGL TSLA APPL MSFT and AMZN few months ago. They won't shoot up to those levels quickly so when I decide to buy back in I can with more shares. Also I'd rather not time the bottom (not possible) and buy when they have already reached the bottom than keep buying them as they go down. To each their own.

The chuds in here telling you GOOG, AMZN, FB, and MSFT are overvalued are the same chuds who took an advance on their Wendy's salary to buy GME, PLTR, AMC, and WISH.

So…I know AMZN has a lot of head winds. But it touched 2018 & 2019 highs today. Can I buy 1 share or would you call me a tard?

Gosh, AMZN why you hurting me like that?

Amzn too

Been getting messages with same questions so hopefully this gives more information. Closed out with $105k gains today pushing my total value 401k+ 401Roth over 1 million. Any questions let me know glad to help.

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Most were bought yesterday but I've bought and doubled down on SPY 6/17 380/360/340/300. Also have ZM 5/20 78P and 40P. NVDA COST and WDAY puts 5/27. Bought WDAY and NVDA last week. COST yesterday. Have some TSLA that expire 6/3 and 6/17 and GOOGL 6/3 more as lotto. Here's what I've closed out today. I could have made it more but already decided if I go over 100k and make my retirement portfolio over 1M I will close out most of the big tech stonks and stuck with it.

10 GOOGL 5/27 2105P average price 21.71 sold at 76 for example. I am kicking myself because I kept buying to average down cost but GOOGL didn't have that later drop.

2 GOOGL 5/27 2000P at 33 sold at 120

2 GOOGL 6/3 1980P at 8.25 sold 28.14

4 TSLA 5/27 675P at 25.75 sold at 45.25

2 AMZN 5/27 2130P at 52 sold at 88.15

2 AMZN 5/27 2150P at 56 sold at 97

5 AMZN 5/27 2000P at 17.9 sold 28.20

1 TSLA 6/3 650P at 38 sold 45.31

2 TSLA 5/27 650P at 25 sold 28.26

Most were bought yesterday but I've bought and doubled down on SPY 6/17 380/360/340/300. Also have ZM 5/20 78P and 40P. NVDA COST and WDAY puts 5/27. Bought WDAY and NVDA last week. COST yesterday. Have some TSLA that expire 6/3 and 6/17 and GOOGL 6/3 more as lotto. Here's what I've closed out today. I could have made it more but already decided if I go over 100k and make my retirement portfolio over 1M I will close out most of the big tech stonks and stuck with it.

10 GOOGL 5/27 2105P average price 21.71 sold at 76 for example. I am kicking myself because I kept buying to average down cost but GOOGL didn't have that later drop.

2 GOOGL 5/27 2000P at 33 sold at 120

2 GOOGL 6/3 1980P at 8.25 sold 28.14

4 TSLA 5/27 675P at 25.75 sold at 45.25

2 AMZN 5/27 2130P at 52 sold at 88.15

2 AMZN 5/27 2150P at 56 sold at 97

5 AMZN 5/27 2000P at 17.9 sold 28.20

1 TSLA 6/3 650P at 38 sold 45.31

2 TSLA 5/27 650P at 25 sold 28.26

How long till AMZN no longer a trillion dollar company

>FANG+ Constituents: >$AAPL 138.12 -3.49% $AMZN 2071.35 -3.71% $BABA 82.77 -5.11% $BIDU 115.85 -6.6% $FB 177.3 -9.65% $GOOG 2075.91 -7.1% $NFLX 178.15 -4.96% $NVDA 160.06 -5.27% $TSLA 636.85 -5.62% $MSFT 255.14 -2.1% >$TWTR 36.4 -3.88%

^IGSquawk ^@IGSquawk ^at ^2022-05-24 ^11:08:38 ^EDT-0400

AMZN and GOOG have the same price ;)

What's better under $2k? $GOOGL or $AMZN?

2000 seems like such a strong support level for amzn.

AMZN has its stock split next week so...

AMZN and GOOG competing to see who can get sub 2000 first

Amzn will be under 100 next month. Googl 2 months

I was incorrect currently close out $105k gains not $107k gains as originally posted. Biggest closed out day gain to date and pushes my 401k+ Roth401 over 1 million total holdings. I still have a few further out GOOGL AMZN and TSLA puts plus NVDA and COST and WDAY puts coming up for earnings but those positions pale in comparison to my GOOGL put holdings closed out and AMZN and TSLA.

Now that those big 3 are going up a bit will keep close eye. Goes up too much will get back in puts. I didn't want to hold for rest of week have since with this big drop could see up and down movement or flat rest of week.

When this all settles will post gains. I use fidelity (I love but app sucks so use Active Trader Pro) so interface isn't as sleek as HOOD.

It's pretty impressive I managed to pick the exact ATH to invest in AMZN.

AMZN PUMP IT

Waiting until under $2K, for AMZN more like $1.850 pre Covid levels.

GOOGL and AMZN, the race to sub-$2000 jeez

From Nov 18 2021-current: AMZN; -45%. MOEX russian index: 44%. So basically AMZN is performing worse than a country where the western world has basically isolated and denounced their entire economy, story checks out. Would of had better returns just investing in the Russian broader markets...

perfectly timed AMZN 2100c and closed for $850/contract. bought 3

My guess is as good as yours, but seems good to me. Like a 33% discount from it's ATH. Even if falls more, you're probably fine long term. I'm picking up GOOGL/AMZN cause of the splits

I dont know man…. I have a feeling that literally every retail reddito is buying the dips in FB GOOG AMZN.

I mean: google bought 75b of their own stock…. Fb did buy a lot. PE below 18. My dumb brain thinks that i have to buy too……

If all do this i think we are fucked.

I once vowed I would put my lifesavings in AMZN if they ever decided to split and thank fuck I didn't do that because I didn't like how the market looked

anyone grabbed some AMZN and GOOGL?

Race between googl and amzn

Amzn green end of day

Amzn reverses today?

I know, but a silent partner typically still gets dividends even without votes. The main question is, what is the main incentive of owning such a share? Is the C share propped up by artificial demand because of the halo effect of the A share? Nobody is questioning the usefulness of Alphabet, but I just can’t wrap my head around a class of share that does completely nothing. You provide capital to the company, but you get neither dividends nor votes. Or is there some other benefit other than buybacks that I did not yet do DD on?

In contrast, AMZN may not pay a dividend, but at least there is an ordinary vote and there is only one class of shares. Likewise for BRK-A and BRK-B. The shares at least serve a single function.

Sorry if I am annoying with the incessant questions, but I sincerely want to learn why shares that do nothing are worth what they are.

Thanks brutha. So far biggest one day gain still have SPY WDAY COST NVDA puts and further expiry TSLA AMZN GOOGL.

Wanted to hold more but once total gains went over 100k didn't want to deal with possible up and down shit rest of week for the 5/27.

Congratulations AMZN for your 52 week low

Can amzn and goog even hold 2k or not a chance

Closed out a lot of my 5/27 GOOGL TSLA AMZN Puts. Combined profit so far over $107k

Yikes AMZN so overvalued above $2000

GOOGL and AMZN, quickly break to 1.9

Just a bit more amzn 😅

Picking up 5/27 GOOG 2150C. Too much red. Sold out of both TSLA and AMZN poots. Save us jplow!

There's a perverse self-interest by corporations who heavily invested in real estate (AMZN for example) to hang onto that shit since it props up their market cap. I suspect they'll need to be under more pressure to cut/control costs deeper in the recession before they start pairing back buildings.

a month ago AMZN was trading at $3000

They're both splitting 20-1 so the price per share is about to be around $100. AMZN split is June 3rd and GOOGL split is in July.

i bought amzn at 2900 and now its 2000, im going to order some clown makeup

#Ban Bet Won

/u/OptionGamble (2W/2L) made a bet that AMZN would go to 2090.0 when it was 2153.04 and it did, congrats gigabrain.

AMZN losing 2000

Amzn vs googl

Damn never thought I'd see GOOG under AMZN

And there it is. AMZN & GOOGL trading at equal price