Cleveland-Cliffs Inc.
CLF22.62
I traded TSLA a lot today, now no position in TSLA as it hit stop/loss.
NVDA 180C10dte
MSFT 275C24DTE
CLF 22C150dte
SPY 360P17dte
I couldnt waste more money as I didnt realise its close to 22.00 so yea, I even have cash left lol
Tech and American steel like, clf, x, nue are currently down but I am pretty sure if there is a future we're going to need metal and microchips so I am still believing in amd and intel
Overstock(OSTK) Cooper Standard(CPS) Kyndryl(KD) Crocs (CROX) Dropbox (DBX) Cleveland Cliffs (CLF) Conduent (CNDT) Nano Dimension (NNDM)
I’m not endorsing any of these stocks, but they are all very cheap. Who knows what the future holds, and they all hold differing degrees of risk with regards to bankruptcy and future outlooks.
Yeah, I don’t worry those CLF call very much, with 3 months out expire date, I can even average it down if drop to $18, then sell it with 10-20% profit with little bounce back if things get much worse than today.
$CLF is still above it's 100/200 DMA's on the 2 year chart. I sense a bounce soon up to $23 quiet likely $27.80. Sell your calls when $CLF hits $25
The only good thing to me is I sold My COST calls with profit yesterday, and only holding 1.8k worth CLF August ATM calls (now worth 1.4K) , otherwise I will lose 4.5k rather than $400 in call options today. 
So I have followed my startegy of harvesting the flowers (winners) since January. I also hold onto the weeds in hopes they will bounce back (psfe, weber, fdx, C, JPM). If something was up 30% I sold half of it. For example sold half my oils CVX, SLB. Yes I left money on the table as they have stayed strong but I still owned XOM and MPC. Sold CLF after I made 40% in short time watched it run higher but I had locked 40% return (don't be a pig). What I am guilty of is greed LY. I was up a lot on msft, aapl and pypl. Greed got the best of me and instead of exiting pypl at $300 i held and held and held. My basis is $40. I was a total pig. I have added aapl in last 2 weeks ($157 and $143). I own a lot of aapl and believe it has a strong moat, strong balance sheet and great brand.....all things I look for in a LT holding. MSFT is the same but aapl and msft are a large % of my portfolio now so I need to think through increasing that %. Getting my ass kicked on GM and even on F rn. What has been relatively winning??? JNJ, ABBV, TXN, RTX all purchased some time ago. Days like today feel like a kick in the nuts as I was down 5% (woke up to TGT down $50/share). Like in real estate, you make your money on the entry not the sell. If you buy strong companies at a good PE you will do well.
The IV 30% rank for CLF only 36%, and the stock price is $22.61. Bought 5 July calls at close.
Hi! Here are some info about CLF past earnings stock moves!
CLF moves an average of +/-12.32% around earnings, with a std deviation of ~6.53%
=> most past moves are between 5.79% and 18.84%, in absolute value.
After earnings, stock price:
- kept same direction of move for 1.6 days on average
- reversed initial direction 57.89% of the time
Here are the last three earnings (absolute) moves and their durations:
- 2022-04-22: 7.94% lasted for 3 days
- 2022-02-11: 12.03% lasted for 1 days
- 2021-10-22: 11.16% lasted for 1 days
Hi! Here are some info about CLF past earnings stock moves!
CLF moves an average of +/-12.32% around earnings, with a std deviation of ~6.53%
=> most past moves are between 5.79% and 18.84%, in absolute value.
After earnings, stock price:
- kept same direction of move for 1.6 days on average
- reversed initial direction 57.89% of the time
Here are the last three earnings (absolute) moves and their durations:
- 2022-04-22: 7.94% lasted for 3 days
- 2022-02-11: 12.03% lasted for 1 days
- 2021-10-22: 11.16% lasted for 1 days
Inflation, inflation, inflation. I just BTFD on $KGC, $FSM, $CLF. Commodities, commodities, commodities. Gold, Silver, and Steel.
Ok, I bought $CLF, $FSM, and $KGC today. Steel, Gold and Silver. If they want to sell these stocks with forward P/E's under 10 in a inflationary market I will buy.
Good luck everyone
I just opened a position in $KGC, Kinross Gold. A 30% dip in a month is a bit much when the stock last traded this cheaply when Gold futures were at $1300/ounce not $1800.
I am prolly buying $CLF next.
Its actual not too bad if you believe in the steel thesis. Its one of the more undervalued companies in the sector but its not exactly got a strong board either. CLF is a good recommendation in the sector too.
CLF
If we assume this rally is sustainable CHPT, CLF, and CCJ calls for next week? Thoughts?
I know this is satire, but us steel is a shit company. If you're going in steel try CLF, MT, NUE, anything but X
Stopped buying and started accumulating cash last August as I thought this would happen. December I sold a chunk when FED reiterated their stance, was about 20% in cash by end of December. Just sold more late last week and now am up to about 50% in cash currently. Total YTD returns on open positions are ~ -10%.
Largest positions still holding are currently in: ZIM, JKS, SBSW, PRU, PERI, GAU (my current worst performer that I could have sold for 30k profit in 2020), and CLF with minor positions in like 40 other stocks and some ETFs such as VTI, VPU. Best investment all time was AMD (got in mid 2016 in the $4 range, but sold out when it hit the 50s on the way up. Should of held).
Currently debating on what I want to do with ZIM and JKS. Up a good amount in both. JKS I think is a long term winner (especially since it owns 57% of a subsidiary that trades for 8x more in open markets than it does - utter bonkers, not to mention it's the world leader in both production and tech), but US investors just don't like Chinese stocks. Want to add to it, but the environment is bad right now. As for ZIM, they paid a $17.00/share dividend recently as they were making stupid money, but again, due to the bad environment, I'm not sure their earnings will last.
I never see your posts either and when I stumble upon them I actually make money. Well that was like one time for a CLF option, but hell I made money after reading it.
Wheres clf?
Twitter, Ford, jpm, bumble, gopro, zynga, bb, clf, etc red market yea we have been dropping so puts are getting more expensive but bears are out.
I’ve started buying JEPI, from what I understand it’s an index fund, but pays a nice dividend.
Anyone else have opinions on JEPI?
Also interesting, VZ, T, CLF.
Very very risky AMC…
At least with CLF, you can listen to the CEO talk shit to wallstreet analysts.
Was talking about the big red dongus lol but now that i took a look at CLF imma just
CLF? It's a hard market to understand. Take it from a man who was part of steel gang back in the day.
Damn what did you do before $ROPE to fall back on? I guess there is always $CLIFF if you are desperate.... not to be confused with $CLF :D
And people still selling CLF.
CLF if you looked hard enough
Suppose I will probably stay long on my $clf position, I bought in at $15 and I still think their takeover of AK steel and ArcelorMittal's NA operations means they are going to do well regardless of what the economy does, but yeah it be bear season boys.
PYPL and CLF can do buybacks at good prices now. In.
The shitload of money I plowed into $clf at 15 is going to at least keep my power on while the rest of my portfolio continues to eat shit and die
Ya I noticed I missed the CLF jump. Not going there
Buying a shitload of $clf at 15 will at least keep my mortgage paid I suppose.
PLTR, STEM, and CLF
If you are seeing 2034 leaps just slightly more expensive than 2023 leaps, then the play might be calenders. Buy the 2024, sell the 2023 for net chump change. Look at the resulting risk chart. You should find a huge profit possibility at the strike with a large break even range.
You can build a calender ladder, same trade at different strike prices, keeping the break even ranges overlapped.
I did that with CLF 23/22 leaps and did really well. Doing it again with 24/23 leaps and they are looking really good so far.
I believe CLF mines iron pellets locally.
Yes. Auto is growing and currently providing significantly higher margins than historically, and higher than can be expected moving forward.
They have cannabilizied their smart phone business by sacrificing foundry capacity and re-allocating to auto (page 14 of most recent investor deck). Unit sales are DOWN on a multi-year basis despite the revenue and margin growth (page 30).
Again, I'm a massive CLF bull, but there is plenty of bear here. I still believe they are critically undervalued, but if semi demand tops out in 2024 or they lose their competitive edge in auto (foundry capacity), they could just as easily be worth $6 as $26.
buy containership stocks: ZIM, GSL, SBLK, DAC, CMRE, GOGL;
also buy metals and oil stocks: NUE, CNQ, COP, EOG, E, MRO, OXY, TTE, VET, FANG, MGY, TMST, CLF, CMC, TECK, FCX.
my top 40. all worth looking into. spent over a year making this list, theres more but this captures many great sectors.
OXY
CVS
AMD
SQ
AAPL
ZIM
CEG
NVDA
TSLA
MRVL
MOS
AMZN
F
DIS
UEC
TLRY
CLF
AA
HOOD
ABNB
MRNA
LAC
ENPH
NET
STEM
AST
TELL
UNH
NTR
AMAT
MU
TGT
FB
BLNK
RKLB
PTRA
GRWG
CRSP
PLUG
APPH
Question: This website https://www.chartmill.com/stock/quote/X/fundamental-analysis
shows that X will show a decrease in revenue for the next 5 years. Same is for CLF.
Why is this bad projection/estimate?
Nice gains though.
My biggest win was by far CLF earnings, made 25k, then did the same exact play for TX earnings(same commodity, surely it will jump the same right?).
Returned every dollar the following week when it tanked.
I love CLF if for nothing else other than their awesome CEO.
Is CLF going back to $10?
Yeah, I do understand the cyclicality of the names. Will trim eventually. Been using clf as my dividend play via weekly CC's and protective puts on rallies as risk management.
As long as you're rotating out of these eventually you're fine. The only thing I'd suggest is cutting the CLF to 10% and putting that money into the others.
21.5% CVNA short
29.5% CLF
3% MRO
7% AMD
37% ZIM
2% Cash
CLF ripping to $30 today fingers crossed
I'd start piling into $CLF right about now if my cost basis wasn't already way lower
Bitcorn. AMZN puts. CLF.
Mid 50s, investing for 30+ years. I have sat tight during this downturn except sold CVX, CLF and SLB bc i had made DD returns in 6 weeks. I have several stocks that are down like F, GM, SBUX, C, JPM. Have sold nothing else. Nothing. Have not YET boight anything but I have a focused shopping list which includes adding to quality stocks like MSFT, AAPL, PYPL, MAR, ABBV. Never owned meme or ultra pandemic stocks like RBLX, ZOOM, DOCUSIGN bc I just thought they were not for me and I thought they'd be ST only. Quality companies with quality balance sheets will always win.
Buy clf
Yes. Couple of times. When CLF was trading at around 6, I bought $10 calls for 0.12, three months till expiration. They basically turned to 20 baggers a month later.
Also bought palantir $20 leaps when the stock IPOed at around $9. I believe I paid $1.40. I ended up selling them between 7-9 for a total of $20k profit.
CLF on sale!!!!
Why the fuck is $CLF dropping so much today
Like I side before "selectively buy profitable companies." For example, $CLF and $DAC are going to produce record free cash flow in 2022.
$CLF to rally in the steel sector with a big beat from $X
It might not be the bottom for the market, but it might be the bottom for profitable companies like CLF or DAC that are having their best year every for free cash.
Good luck with that.
I'm just going to be over here, investing in profitable companies that are being undervalued, like CLF and DAC.
My CLF is killing it.
What in hell F and CLF are doing?
Actually up 3% ytd. Shares only, no options. Was up 10% at some point, could have been 20% but sold my CLF too soon
-14%. Would’ve been much worse had it not been for a bunch of covered calls on CLF that got called away near the top. I think without that in play I’d be -25% ~ 30%.
I like CLF betta lol
I’m up around 60% (6 figures) Heavy in fertilizer (UAN) and steel (CLF) with energy following up (CVI, DK, ET), finally break even with WFC.
Yeah, like CLF oh wait
OXY
HAL
MOS
ADM
CLF
CLF
Here's to hoping we get a clf kind of situation.
Having faith and screwing up a bunch before.
My first investment was in lumber when it was hot last summer. My big pick was IFP.TO which I rode from $25 to $35 and back down to selling at $24(had a divvy in there so it was my breakeven). I knew it was good but I panicked and sold at breakeven only to see it shoot back up to $40.
I bought HUT at $5, panicked when it hit $4, only to watch it run to $15.
I bought options in TX at around $3. Watched it drop to 75c, climb back up to $3-i sold, right at the beginning of a bull run that saw it worth $15(a 5 bagger) at expiration.
I bought options last summer in CMRE, watched it drop 80%, then from that remaining 20% it 15x (a 3 bagger from my original investment) only to ride it to $0.
And that’s not to mention I lost 20% of my portfolio on March 2022 MT $32 calls. Which had I held to March 2022 would’ve doubled in price.
Anyways, I only invest in a story that I believe in AND get out as soon as the story changes.
With CLF there is about to be reduced chinese steel production which will give a short term tail wind to domestic producers.
DAC -if you remove their cash and stock holdings- has a forward p/e of 3 and contracts with major conglomerates which will maintain that profit for the next 3 years. I also bought last summer at around $50. Buying a stock at $50, 6 months ago makes seeing its price collapse from $107->$75 in a few weeks a lot more palatable.
You also get used to stocks. DAC dropped 12% at one point today and finished down 7%. In September fake news came out on a Japanese newspaper and I remember dumping a third of my DAC holdings at open for $85 and dumping another third at $70 an hour later. After seeing stuff like that happen a few times gets you used to it.
There’s a saying that fundamentals of a business only matter when your time frame is greater then a year. And once you see it in action you really start to believe it.
Yup! Healthy and profitable, started last April.
Steel and shipping. Problem is I lost 20% of my portfolio to MT call options last fall. But have made it up with healthy movement in shares of container and drybulk shipping.
At various times my biggest holdings have been CLF DAC ZIM SBLK CMRE.
Though dropped about 15% in the last two days. That hurts. Biggest holding today is TSM.
r/vitards
-2.04% started Feb 2021. Account with only NIO stock -11% (no NIO in the ISA acc).
If not PayPal -12% and Sofi -15%, I would be green. Would be higher, but I sold my CLF for ~30% and BP for ~20%.
i told you to buy XLF and CLF calls
told ya. tolddd ya
also, on a side note— libtards get rekt
C'mon CLF spend some of that buyback $$$
Calls on CLF
They didn't crush earnings - they beat a prediction that they would have to actively tried to miss. Their target was too low, and in all truth, they should have made more.
Barring a huge shake up in the metals industries - earning are predictable. Take a look at the other mills / metal distributors, down all last week.
This wasn't a surprise and CLF will not touch $40 in 2022.
hmm im sensing many, many butt-hurt CLF investors in here
CLF p/e is a 5.x
they absolutely crushed earnings
this stock should be an easy $60-75 bagger
whats Teslas p/e again?
soo i have 4/29 CLF 30s
I tend to aim for lower dollar (under $40ish stocks) lower PE’s and maybe even a dividend payer. I tend to think lower PE and div could give the stock support. Something like a Ford could be good, I sold some GT too recently. Possibly even a Sofi at these levels tho I know PE, div doesn’t apply. Just seems too low here but who knows. I’m fairly risk averse but always sell on names I wouldn’t mind owning. Also I believe CLF could be good. Haven’t done a ton of options on ETF’s but occasionally I do. Something like SLV I’ve done. Few others.
CLF calls and SPY puts
Clf is a great steel buy
CLF before the pump. Started accumulating in 2016. Had around 600 shares at an average price around 7 bucks. Sold at 12 dollars last year before it went crazy.
CLF next week 🚀 hope you got in on the 30c
Rip my clf calls
Imagine the seething anger boomer who hold shares of CLF have at the moment already 13% down from where it was at 10
They really did the CLF longs dirty today
Can we talk about why CLF smashed earnings and is sold off hard regardless? Great fundamentals too
CLF
CLF inverse boing.
Wow $CLF came out swinging. According to the CEO their main buyer is the automotive sector.
Snipe a quick CLF put or call it good with a good little $8k profit on the morning?
Quick 1500 on snap and clf and out. Gonna be a bloodbath. Cash gang today
CLF ripping
CLF is taking off this! Glad I bought calls last week in anticipation of todays earnings, finally see the color green
CLF up 9% in 3 seconds - money printer go brrrr
Sell my CLF 35c 04/22 at open?
$CLF
Crushes on revs, eps, EBITDA. Raises expected selling price for steel for full year by 17%. Expects record free cash flow => ‘22 EBITDA >$5.3B. 1Q’22 run rate is at $5.8B. Analysts are at $4.9B for the year. If you don’t know what to do with this stock, I can’t help you.
CLF gonna move higher at open?
Got 35c expiring today
Anyone watching CLF this morning?