PayPal Holdings, Inc.PYPLNASDAQ
It'll still get crushed a bit
If you want to be bullish but not want to be bIV crushed, instead have IV crush help you why not enter a position like this???
WTH op? did u pick the Top and decided to buy all? I thought no one can pick the either the bottom or the top but apparently u can!
Here is what I think about a few of your picks:-
SQ, PYPL have been topping at 90ish give or take... I would sell around that and repurchase when they drop again, check for earnings and see how sentiment going in before u pull the trigger.
PLTR is a bout to report as well and most likely will get obliterated again, maybe sell it and pick it after the destruction?
Dash always pumps 20% after it reports....
that being said, if u want to add to any of the above then wait till it goes lower. we just pumped 10% the last month, now will be time to trim not to buy....best of luck
The only one I held was PYPL and I cut that loose in the fall for the tax loss. Maybe just let these guys sit and find a quiet stock you like?
You should of been buying PYPL not selling it.
UBER PYPL TSLA NFLX = yum 🚀
I bought for PMCC. PYPL had been over $300 just a few months prior (before the pinterest fiasco). My thought was that I would play it safe buying DEEP ITM calls. Surely PYPL would be at least above 215 by Jan 2025. And I would make bank selling PMCC in the mean while. Ideally PYPL would hit 300, and I would cash out. But alas, such was not the case. Funny thing is it was a coin toss for me between PYPL and Visa. Obviously made the wrong choice
You bought $120 call LEAPS when PYPL was at $215? What was the best case scenario for this strategy?
this is either pypl’s turnaround point or the final downturn into irrelevancy
PYPL earnings on the 9th, CEO is super bullish about them. if they do recover this is a great price to buy in at, or just buy puts
QQQ is the safest one from ur list that you can dollar cost down without worries. Next would be amd, sq, pypl, dis. Most of these are the hype stocks you bought, i would stick with index etfs like voo, qqq, soxx (if u want semis), russell 2000, xlf (for financials) etc rather than individual stocks since this market has been extremely volatile where you could lose over 90% on a very well established company.
Pypl, moonbound. No dd, all hunch.
wtf PYPL. why can't you be more like your big bros TSLA and FB
>No, I don't think PayPal Holdings, Inc. (PYPL) could reach 95 in the next two months.
I'm bullish on Paypal. Their app, and website position are strong. With SoFI showing good earnings, I think there's a good chance Paypal is riding the same wave.
Thinking about PYPL calls, and selling before earnings bc why not.
PYPL. Current price $85.82.
PE 42.76 forward PE 18 shows strong expected growth.
Forward PE doesn't say hugely undervalued but it's also not unreasonable.
Intrinsic value around $117. Estimated real value $134. Both would still give reasonable forward PEs.
Downside seems minimal with between 36% to 57% upside.
Could certainly be a good play. Good luck.
AVERAGE EARNINGS MOVE | LAST MOVE | IMPLIED MOVE FROM ATM OPTIONS PRICING2023-02-06
$ATVI | Activision Blizzard Inc: 6.2% | 2.28% | 7.07%
$AMGN | Amgen Inc: 4.26% | 3.96% | 2.33%
$ON | ON Semiconductor: 8.06% | 9.65% | 7.58%
$CMI | Cummins Inc: 4.86% | 6.04% | 4.76%
$TSN | Tyson Foods: 6.45% | 1.31% | 6.65%
$SPG | Simon Property Group Inc: 4.95% | 4.53% | 5.18%
$IDXX | IDEXX Laboratories Inc: 7.35% | 9.04% | 7.59%
$PINS | Pinterest Inc: 14.79% | 12.41% | 12.95%
$FISV | Fiserv Inc: 4.13% | 3.18% | 4.87%
$BP | : 4.08% | 2.17% | 4.18%
$LIN | Linde PLC: 3.24% | 2.12% | 4.41%
$CMG | Chipotle Mexican Grill Inc: 9.14% | 7.33% | 11.77%
$VFC | VF Corporation: 6.18% | 2.19% | 11.17%
$CNC | Centene Corp: 6.61% | 9.93% | 3.17%
$ILMN | Illumina Inc: 7.59% | 6.9% | 8.09%
$VRTX | Vertex Pharmaceuticals Inc: 4.95% | 9.5% | 4.33%
$YUM | Yum Brands Inc: 4.55% | 3.36% | 4.32%
$UBER | Uber Technologies Inc: 8.41% | 10.72% | 10.24%
$IFF | International Flavors and Fragrances Inc: 5.28% | 3.91% | 5.03%
$DIS | Walt Disney Co: 3.82% | 12.0% | 6.2%
$CME | CME Group Inc: 3.63% | 3.0% | 2.44%
$CVS | CVS Health Corporation: 4.65% | 6.33% | 4.14%
$PRU | Prudential Financial Inc: 4.26% | 6.41% | 4.67%
$EMR | Emerson Electric Co: 3.34% | 2.56% | 3.75%
$PM | Philip Morris International Inc: 4.12% | 1.1% | 3.3%
$MSI | Motorola Solutions Inc: 5.55% | 4.76% | 5.8%
$PYPL | PayPal Holdings Inc: 6.93% | 5.47% | 9.18%
$SPGI | S&P Global Inc: 3.83% | 2.64% | 3.43%
$BAX | Baxter International Inc: 3.93% | 7.83% | 5.33%
$ABBV | AbbVie Inc: 5.4% | 6.39% | 3.95%
$PEP | PepsiCo Inc: 2.22% | 5.07% | 2.79%
$HLT | Hilton Worldwide Holdings Inc New: 4.38% | 5.4% | 5.85%
$ENB | Enbridge Inc: 3.02% | 3.79% | 3.82%
$GPN | Global Payments Inc: 6.32% | 9.52% | 7.14%
$IQV | IQVIA Holdings Inc: 5.49% | 3.46% | 5.78%
$MTD | Mettler Toledo International Inc: 5.0% | 3.99% | 10.51%
Some implied moves for earnings next week - 600 companies reporting:
Some implied moves for earnings next week - 600 companies reporting:
How are you hanging, man?
I’m not overall down, but basically lost 80% of my wins from Wednesday—Thursday. 4x my portfolio in a week; guess we’ll never know if I had 20x’d it.
What PYPL options were you holding?
The most anticipated earnings releases scheduled for the week are Enphase Energy #ENPH, PayPal #PYPL, onsemi #ON, Uber Technologies #UBER, Wal Disney #DIS, Tyson Foods #TSN, Royal Caribbean Cruises #RCL, CVS Health #CVS, Pinterest #PINS, and BP #BP.
52 yo with at least a 15 year time horizon before needing to start touching anything. Several accounts across me and my spouse, some tax advantaged, some not, some managed, some self-managed. Largely buy and hold. And hold and hold. And buy. Had a wee bit of a diversification scare in the late 90's which may have left a lasting impression.
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Other - Cash and fixed:
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Other Bond Funds/ETF’s – 3.52%
PYPL bag holder here, I bought at $263 and i have no hope in this company
>It's definitely worth considering loading up on PYPL at this point, especially if you're bullish on the stock. Cramer's change of heart could be seen as a sign that there's more upside potential than downside risk in the current market conditions.
Next week, there's Uber, Lyft, On Semi and PYPL.
Fuck, we might break the 410 support.
COIN 2/10 $47 put for $0.05
PYPL 2/17 $130 call for $0.04
AMZN 2/10 $87 put for $0.05
NIO 2/10 $9.5 put for $0.04
AMD 2/10 $73 put for $0.05
This was a sick play and I missed. /u/The_OG_Steve praise be Jesus. The only play I can see like this with relatively low IV is $PYPL with earnings next week.
PYPL - cramers favorite fintech stock.
PYPL lays off 319 more employees!! Shitheads could have laid off 420 people
AMZN 135, GOOG 125, PYPL 95 all for 2/10. Spy Put 405 2/10.
It’d be pretty cool if PYPL pulled a META and went up 25% after earnings next week
PYPL could hit $100 by end of month.
You could be right, but damned if I'll let PYPL take another dime from me
Highly improbable than PYPL almost triples between now and then. Specially in this economy. Can't really so 💩 with $600 so I'll probably ride it to 0
If we like Cramer now, is he right about PYPL??? Genuinely curious!
A little voice in my head is telling me full port PYPL. However, I’m hesitant because voice talks sorta funny.
Wow maybe PYPL will push past it's 200 MDA of 83.58 finally lmao
pypl at $80 though? NOW is the time to start buying calls though. fuck what everyone says about a recession, pypl is already priced in at that level.
While also adding to the position at the lower prices. Imagine if he had dropped another 5k in PYPL under $100. He'd probably be looking at 150 B/E. PS... I've been accumulating PYPL Shares under $100.00
PYPL got to be a buy at this point right?
It was around this time last year that institutionals sold off about 50 million PYPL shares over a single quarter. Since then we saw PYPL shoot itself in the foot with a proposed, and quickly walked back, fine for "users promoting misinformation". But the damage had been done, certain people walked away. Combine that with Square/Venmo being more popular with the younglings, a market PYPL really needed.
Yea, rough times for PYPL. Cant say its not deserved though, /shrug.
im bagholding PYPL fucking hardddddd
Thank you. Buying calls on PYPL tmrw.
PYPL to fire 2,000 or 7% of its workforce.
PYPL just announced layoffs.. bullish!!!
As if my PYPL portfolio wasn’t bad enough
Customer service. They do $1T in payments per year.
I had an issue with PayPal yesterday, and I got redirected to a customer service representative by a chat bot pretty easily who instantly called me to sort out my issue. I'd rate the experience very positively.
I am also an investor, so I am a bit of a PYPL shill. My experience yesterday was genuine, though.
>PAYPAL SHARES JUMP, LAST UP 2.3% AFTER MARKETWATCH REPORTS PAYPAL WILL LAY OFF 7% OF EMPLOYEES AS PART OF COST CUTTING $PYPL
^*Walter ^Bloomberg ^@DeItaone ^at ^2023-01-31 ^14:40:15 ^EST-0500
And I totally called PYPL this morning. They will be back to November highs after earnings
I love SPOT & PYPL. I like INTC, META, PFE, MO, GOOG, MSFT & VOW3.DE.
PYPL will be back to November high after earnings pop!!
Damnit - we dont have PFE in the tool yet. Let me know if you want me to run it for any of these securities. Same inputs. Or you can do it yourself for SPY
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Looks like PYPL is making a comeback after earnings.
The next big junk heap to rally
So, the last 6 months or so we've seen numerous names that had absolutely radioactive sentiment yet they've rebounded sharply on some pretty small or questionable catalysts.
NFLX - customer and price saturation in full effect, main "idea" is to call customers password thieves, launches desperate and poorly conceived ad tied but has to refund advertisers... up 120%.
NVIDIA - incredibly high multiple, caught as the poster person of high tech and semiconductor glut, reveals a large portion of earnings are from crypppto (they call "gaming") where demand has vanished, up 100+%.
Bi+coin - left for dead as scandal after scandal and no more greater fools exist, n.ft myth and basic premise becomes a household joke - but crypot related names already up 50-100% this month.
META* - another poisonous company and product, became a global joke, clueless leader betting the company on legless animated puppets like an unfun version of second life. Up 60% on.... nothing?
TSLA - sociopathic owner, stale products that look like GM Saturns, slumping sales, aimless and corrupt leadership, finally facing real competition, having to absolutely slash prices to get rid of inventory, leader is off running a message board for authoritarians and their cultists, up 75% this month.
Any of these would have seemed like a terrible buy at their bottoms.
So, what's the current worst and irredeemable large junk pile that will have its 50-150% trash-to-cash rally? Some suggestions...
PYPL - nothing new, CEO still hasn't explained his hyperbolic optimism right before a straight 70% drop in value.
AMZN - gone from customer favorite to universally hated. Every announcement is more negativity, constantly degrading the value prop of Prime, getting rid of shipping incentive, doubling down on third party seller junk, untrustworthy reviews, delivery problems, no action on used and counterfeit merchandise, no leadership.
FSLY/NET - grew on the back of pandemic and social trends like WFH, Tiktok, remote schooling. World is opening up and content distribution more commoditized with slowing growth.
SOFI/RKT - alternative financials, Fintechs. The assumption is that mortgages and loans will be a stock market Death Valley for years to come thanks to fed inflation fighting panic moves. Their clients tend to be more vulnerable, younger, lower assets, lower credit, etc.
any of the EV juniors, suppliers, battery companies - things like Canoo, Rivian, Micro-Vast, Frey, QS. All were once valued on the premise of "what if they can just take 2% market share?" Now that feels like a pipe dream.
Which of these will have their 75% one-month bounce? Or what name do you think will?
Buy pypl calls for 100 strike after earnings.
If intc crashes as hard as tsla,meta,nflx,pypl then intc will go to 17.50...
PYPL is your best position. I would make that 20% of the portfolio. Sell the VTIAX and buy more PYPL. Everthing else is just cheap speculation, so who cares what it does.
I sold out of $PYPL. I was fortunate enough to time the bottom and sold out for over a 20% gain for holding the stock for just a month.
The bulls are getting too greedy here. I might trim some other positions before close.
So buy ETH, BTC, ARKK, ARKX, PYPL, NCLH, and CCL, got it!
Why do i own PYPL instead of TSLA >:(
Losing money in the stock market, it's a bitter pill to swallow My VTSAX, VTIAX, VFFSX, VTSNX, they ain't worth a dollar ETHUSD, BTCUSD, they ain't worth a dime ARKK, PYPL, ARKX, NCLH, CCL, they've all lost their shine
These are just a handful on my watchlist...
DIS up 22.5% from 52 week low
ASML up 46.5% from 52 week low
GOOGL up 14.0% from 52 week low
SHOP up 52.1% from 52 week low
AAPL up 13.5% from 52 week low
AMZN up 17.5% from 52 week low
MSFT up 12.8% from 52 week low
AMD up 28.4% from 52 week low
NVDA up 45.4% from 52 week low
PYPL up 17.2% from 52 week low
ABNB up 23.1% from 52 week low
NFLX up 55.6% from 52 week low
SNOW up 26.0% from 52 week low
I held pypl all through 2022 and it's a new year a new bull market... for other stocks... pypl literally goes no where.. up nor down... tf is this stock!???
Yeah I closed my position today thankfully and I'm never buying options again. I put the rest of my money in pypl shares
Need him to tweet tomorrow morning that MSFT, AMD, PYPL, and GNRC are all going bankrupt and to sell immediately.
There is no next time. I'm done with options lol. I just put all my money back in pypl shares and now is the holding game. Ima sell pypl at 90 buy back at 80 sell at 100 buy back at 90 sell at 110 buy back at 100 and sell at 120 then find another stock. 😊
pypl $79 $78 $77 puts, no way it’s going to go higher
Looking at the 5Y charts I’m convinced TWLO and PYPL are the same company
PYPL is down $22 from the same news only a few months ago. CRM has a lot of problems.
I can say the same for PYPL and AMZN CEOs. I don't even know who's worst. There are some many things these can do and yet choosing to sit on their hands waiting for a miracle to happen.
PYPL with the right management, a name change to Venmo, is a $5.00 EPS stock in a bull cycle
Going to watch my MSFT, AMD, GNRC, PYPL & RBLX calls like
I prefer AMZN, TSLA and PYPL. Apple products are not priced correctly in this macro environment - pencil for 100 dollars + tax.
I hate myself. I literally been bag holding pypl for all of 2022 and I was waiting for tsla to fall so I can sell pypl and buy tsla. Once tsla hit 103 I bought it and then sold it like an idiot at 113... I thought it was gonna go to 80....
TSLA might be pumping but PYPL is red lol
Tickers of Interest - TL;DR
Gamma Max Cross
- ARKK 03/17 35P for $2.10 or less
- CHPT 03/17 11P for $0.85 or less
- ORCL 03/17 85P for $2.20 or less
- MSTR 03/17 210P for $28.65 or less
- TEAM 03/17 145P for $13.25 or less
Delta Neutral Cross
- EWZ 03/17 29P for $1.25 or less
- WFC 03/17 42.5P for $1.25 or less
- PYPL 03/17 75P for $3.90 or less
- PARA 03/17 17.5P for $0.60 or less
- XOP 03/17 135P for $5.65 or less
Trading Thesis - Why These Crayons Taste Better
Technical analysis and indicator based trading tend to use past price performance in order to predict important price levels today.
This analysis is based on the current option open interest. With that option open interest, it calculates portfolio-level greeks--notably Delta and Gamma. More importantly, once the portfolio level greeks are established, I can now simulate the change in greeks at different price points. From there, I can find the price levels where portfolio-level gamma is the highest, and the portfolio-level delta is close to 0.
For some tickers, the underlying price reacts strongly off of delta neutral, gamma max, and sometimes both.
It's the reaction off of these price levels in the past that is being used to drive trading signals.
The plays and target entry prices given are calculated using a binomial option pricing model that reflect the expected size and duration of the reaction from gamma max or delta neutral. A lot of these plays are profitable by underlying moves in stock. The best plays benefit from the directional move as well as the increase in IV.
Notes - Something to give you a new wrinkle
- If the price has moved past the entry price, exercise caution. Something changed between the time these plays were generated and market open.
- Look to sell half your position on a double, and freeroll the rest to exit at your discretion.
- I tend to risk up to 1% of my total capital on any trades I take. If my conviction is lower, I'll only allocate 0.5% or even 0.25% of my capital to the trade, and dollar cost average in.
- The trades were calculated before market open, and so are based on information up to yesterday. Keep that in mind when deciding to enter well after the fact. New price movement may invalidate the original thesis.
FAQ - Because others have already asked.
- These plays are mostly puts. Are you a gay bear?
- No. It so happens that the companies have had some recent run-up which implies they are overextended. These trades are primarily some form of mean-reversion either toward or away from an important price level.
- Are you entering all these plays?
- No. There have been a dearth of plays in the WSB morning talks, and so I opened up my bag of tools slightly wider to point out more plays with a probable edge to help lead apes to more gain porn. Go through this curated list of plays, pick the ones you like based on whatever additional analysis you use, and get that gain porn.
- You mentioned a new play on the same ticker in the past. What does that mean?
- The new play should replace the old play. The old play is likely now invalid and if you haven't entered in, don't chase the price. Remember that a new day's worth of data has been produced and the newer play reflects that data, the older play does not.
- Where are the crayons? I only see words.
- Click the links above.
- Have you back-tested this?
- Yes. Results show a moderate Sharpe Ratio (1.7), with an expected win rate of 63% of trades (7% margin of error)
- What is the historical performance?
- The realized Sharpe Ratio is 1.82 with a 67% win rate. Based on the trade performance so far, there is a 95% chance the expected win rate will be between 58% and 79%. (Stats as of 2022-12-31)