Feb 10, 2011
Executives
Jeffrey Dodge - Senior Vice President of Investor Relations Lee Adrean - Chief Financial Officer and Corporate Vice President Richard Smith - Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Analysts
Michael Meltz - JP Morgan Chase & Co Daniel Leben - Robert W. Baird & Co.
Incorporated Julio Quinteros - Goldman Sachs Group Inc. Carter Malloy - Stephens Inc.
Nathaniel Otis - Keefe, Bruyette, & Woods, Inc. Shlomo Rosenbaum - Stifel, Nicolaus & Co., Inc.
Andrew Jeffrey - SunTrust Robinson Humphrey Capital Markets Daniel Perlin - RBC Capital Markets, LLC Eric Boyer - Wells Fargo Securities, LLC William Warmington - Raymond James & Associates Georgios Mihalos - BofA Merrill Lynch Manav Patnaik - Barclays Capital
Operator
Good day, and welcome to the Equifax Q4 2010 Earnings Release Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Mr.
Jeff Dodge. Please go ahead, sir.
Jeffrey Dodge
Thank you and good morning, everybody. Welcome to today's conference call.
I'm Jeff Dodge with Investor Relations. And with me today are Rick Smith, our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; and Lee Adrean, our Chief Financial Officer.
Today's call is being recorded. An archive of the recording will be available later today in the Investor Relations section in the About Equifax tab of our website at www.equifax.com.
During this call, we'll be making certain forward-looking statements to help you understand Equifax and its business environment. These statements involve a number of risks, uncertainties and other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from our expectations.
Certain risk factors inherent in our business are set forth in the filings with the SEC, including our 2009 Form 10-K and subsequent filings. During the fourth quarter of 2009, we recorded two onetime items: a restructuring charge and a tax credit, which will be excluded from our discussion this morning.
Also, we will refer to a non-GAAP financial measure, adjusted diluted EPS from continuing operations attributable to Equifax, which excludes the impact of the onetime items and acquisition-related amortization expense. These items are included in our non-GAAP reconciliation included with our earnings release and posted on our website.
Please refer to the non-GAAP reconciliation in our various investor presentations, which are posted in the Investor Relations section under the About Equifax tab on our website for further detail. Now I'd like to turn it over to Rick.
Richard Smith
Thanks, Jeff. Good morning, everyone.
Thanks for joining us this morning. The focus and execution of this team enabled us to deliver another strong performance in the fourth quarter.
We continue to capitalize on our strategic investments. We execute well on our key enterprise initiatives, and we're benefiting from a modestly improving business environment.
Although the headwinds may have abated, they have not yet become strong tailwinds for us. So, our focus, going forward, will continue to be on the execution of our strategic filings and delivering on commitments to our customers and our shareholders.
A quick review of the quarter. Total revenue from continuing ops was $482 million, up 11% from the fourth quarter of 2009 and ahead of the expectations we gave you during our earnings release last October.
I'm going to spend some time talking about this next one, which is operating margin. Operating margin was 23%, which is flat when compared to continuing operations from 2009.
Couple of key points you need to know. This is a strong focus area for us as a leadership team.
We're committed to the stated goals we have given you over the last couple of years, which is our long-term objectives of getting to 24% to 26% operating margin. that is still well within our reach.
If you look at the quarter, it's important you break a few things out. You look at the individual business units.
First, commercial, a strong 32.2% of margin. USCIS at 36.3%, up 250 basis points over a year ago; TALX at 24.4%, up 330 basis points year-on-year; PSol, 30.9%, up 280 basis points.
The reason we're not getting a lift that maybe some of you have expected is consistent with what we told you in the past. We have made significant investments starting in the fourth quarter and probably continuing through the early part of the second quarter 2011 in our International operations, predominantly in our go-to-market areas.
So that's sales, marketing, product management, and I'm convinced that will pay the dividends we want. So that's why you're seeing some compression in margin in International, plus we decided to make some investments, as Lee has talked about in the past, in IT, to position us for long-term growth, as well.
So if you look at the underlying business units, strong performance there in margin, we'll get the lift. I'll talk more about the outlook on the end of March 2011 in my concluding comments.
The adjusted EPS from continuing operations was $0.62, up 10% from $0.56 last year. For the year, total revenue from continuing ops was $1.9 billion, up 8% from 2009, and operating margin was 23%, down 60 basis points year-on-year.
Adjusted EPS from continuing ops for the year was $2.31, up 6% from $2.17 last year. As always, we have some key business points.
During each quarter in 2010, business conditions progressively improved. Consumer credit trends generally improve sequentially and more significantly from their levels a year ago.
As a result, major banks have started to release a significant amount of the reserves due to an improving outlook for future credit losses. Our lending activity picked up, albeit gradually, but we're still relatively conservative on underwriting practices.
We saw our clients apply much more discipline in their decision activities and intensify their evaluation of new or unique solutions that would significantly improve their confidence in those decisions. We experienced strong demand from many of our newer products as customers are increasingly looking to Equifax for decisioning technology, innovation and thought leadership.
All of our business units strengthened their management teams throughout year as well as strengthening many, many customer relationships. As a result, we're able deliver strong and improving performance each quarter in 2010.
Along with this improving pace, we stepped up our investments to ensure that we were well positioned for business opportunities and growth in 2011 and beyond. One of our most strategic priorities is acquiring a diverse array of unique data assets.
We've been leaders in developing closed exchanges. And in 2010, we developed one of the most unique data assets to a new closed exchange.
This new exchange will include the positive data records on consumers' paying history with all their major telecommunications companies and who are currently contributors to our negative data exchange. This was established in the mid-1990s in the U.S.
So we've taken a negative data for telcos and utilities, and we've now added positive data. That started in 2010.
The data contributors have provided now over 1 billion positive data records on a 140 million unique consumers. Important thing here is that over 20% of these consumers that we now have are not in our credit database or do not have sufficient credit history to calculate a credit score.
Extremely unique, extremely powerful, no one else in the U.S. has this kind of database.
We're just beginning to scratch the surface in terms of new products that we can leverage in this unique asset. For example, solutions that improve decisioning for fraud, new account applications for consumers without a credit file, as well as improving lending decisions that combine data from both databases.
More to come. And I really see that database as being a game changer in the U.S.
Next, we continue to grow The Work Number, adding over 250 new data contributors and almost 3 million new active records. We relaunched our Personal Solutions website with new products and services, we've operationalized our credit bureau joint venture in India.
It's exceeding our targets for both bank participation and the volume of records in the database. Russia had a great year for us, exceeding our expectations and further positioning us to be a leading competitor in this growing geography.
We recruited seasoned and highly skilled executives. New to Equifax were our IT leader and our corporate development leader and have successfully transitioned to new leadership in each of our business units, a testament to our organizational bench strength to make that kind of change in leadership in one year.
We expanded the role of LEAN that work out across all business units and Centers of Excellence and expanded our world-class Equifax- owned shared service operation in Costa Rica, providing high-quality, low-cost services to our business units around the world. We continue to make competitive inroads with our analytic solutions.
In 2010 for example, 34% of our online transactions in the U.S. included a score from a model developed by Equifax.
This is up from 30% in 2009. We've talked a lot about innovation here.
We've intensified our commitment to innovation. We've launched 72 new products last year, contributed over $176 million to our 2010 revenue from products launched between 2007 and 2009.
That is up 31% from the NPI contributions a year prior. It's a very critical effort for us in maintaining our competitive edge in the marketplace, something we remain very committed to.
We still realized [ph] our investment in internationals. I've talked about it a number of times to ensure that we're well-positioned to capitalize on future growth in these markets.
These investments specifically are in India, Brazil, U.K. and other Latin American countries.
We staffed up our sales organization, we acquired companies that strengthen our market position, and we've leveraged new product innovations to drive growth, high-value services for our customers. During the year, we also tightened our strategic focus by divesting businesses that did not fit our long-term strategy.
During the year, as you know, APPRO, our loan application processing business, and DMS and DBS, our Direct Marketing Services business, were sold as well. And as you know, in November, we quadrupled our dividend from $0.04 a share to $0.16 a share.
The resiliency of our business model and the strategic opportunities for growth gave myself and our board the confidence to establish a new dividend payout target of 25% to 35% of our net income going forward. Now looking forward to 2011, our focus will be to leverage on our strategic investments we've already made, while continuing to deliver improved operating performance and strengthening our competitive position globally.
Our key priorities for 2011 and beyond will make us a much stronger competitor domestically as well as internationally. Over the course of 2011, you'll be hearing about a handful of points that I'll walk you through now that's important to us.
Number one is we're making a sizable investment, have been and will be, in linking all of our U.S. data assets, giving customers the ability to leverage Decision 360 insights throughout their organizations.
This will be a disruptive force in the marketplace. It will open up new product opportunities and markets by developing personal, separate solutions that are unmatched by our competitors.
The technology platform we've been developing will also give us the ability to launch more products at a much faster pace. So the important thing there is we've been doing Decision 360 for about a year now.
You know that, that’s leveraging The Work Number, both VOI and VOE, IXI and the credit data. It's been a manual process, which takes a little more time and a lot more cost.
This linking of the databases make it much more efficient and much faster for our customers and for us. Number two, continuing to broaden our product line and strengthening our market position in the mortgage sector, it’s been a very important sector for us.
We're a leader in that market. We'll continue to invest and grow and strengthen our position there.
Number three, strengthening our international franchise, investing in our larger geographies to make us a more valuable partner for financial institutions, governmental agencies, telcos, retailers and small and medium enterprises. Establishing a strong, competitive position and a growth engine in India is very important for us.
Important fact for you. To date, and we just launched this, it was late third quarter 2010.
To date, we have 115 different data contributors in India, and we have 63 million records loaded into the database with many more on the way. We're really pleased with the progress we're making in India in a short period of time.
Next point is we're going to continue to deliver strong sustainable growth in the number of records in The Work Number database. That is a vehicle for strong growth in the Work Number, going forward.
Next, we're going to continue to build on our market share gains. We've been getting the last couple years in Personal Solutions in our North American Commercial Solutions businesses.
Next we're going to invest in and expand our presence in IT management space. The acquisition of Anakam in the fourth quarter significantly broaden our capabilities and product lines in the sector, and we'll build on it further in 2011.
That’s a space that’s new to us, and I'm very excited about growth prospects going forward. Lastly, we're going to continue our elevated investment in technology and analytics services by expanding our analytical resources and technology platforms.
We'll build analytical insights across multiple data-unique assets, enabling us to offer customers high-value solutions that no competitor can match. Financially, as we look forward, we expect economic conditions to continue to improve modestly in 2011 with the expectation of the economic landscape gets a little better towards the back end of the year than the first half of the year and our successful performance that we had in 2010.
So the combination of a modestly improving environment, plus our execution and performance in the past give me confidence that we can deliver on the long-term growth objectives we've told you of 6% to 9% over the coming years. Let me break down the specific business units first with the U.S.
While the U.S. underwriting standards continue to be conservative across virtually all lending products, banks have moderated their underwriting standards as they become more comfortable with their ability to manage risk.
We expect our Decision 360 products, which incorporate credit, wealth and actual, not scored, income data to increase their penetration in 2011, as customers look for solutions that deliver greater precision for the decisioning activities. For the first quarter of 2011, USCIS revenues is expected to be up mid-single digit range when compared to continuing operations from 2010.
As I've said many times, we're going to continue to invest aggressively in U.K., Brazil and India, as well as all over Latin America to ensure we're well positioned to continue to capitalize on the long-term growth opportunities in those geographies. For the first quarter, we expect international revenue, excluding any impact of foreign currency translation, to be up in the low- to mid-single-digit range when compared to the first quarter of 2010.
Next, on the TALX. We continue to have great opportunities to grow and expand TALX.
Augmenting and diversifying our important [ph] BPO services should enable us to sustain double-digit growth in The Work Number. For the first quarter, TALX is expected to deliver upper-single-digit revenue growth.
On the PSol, we continue to gain share in PSol and that will continue. We’ll continue to invest in the enhanced customer loyalty and web experience.
We'll continue to invest in new products for PSol. And for the first quarter we expect that business to be up in the upper single digits when compared to the first quarter of 2010.
And lastly, we've continued to invest in North Americans solutions, driving further market share gains and above average growth in the U.S. For the first quarter, North American Commercial Solutions should deliver upper single digit to lower double-digit growth when compared to first quarter of 2010.
With that, Lee, you can give the details of the financial situation.
Lee Adrean
Thanks, Rick, and good morning, everyone. This morning, I will be referring to the financial results from continuing operations presented on a GAAP basis except for the exclusion of the 2009 restructuring charges and the fourth quarter 2009 tax credit, or as otherwise noted in my comments.
You should also refer to Q&A and non-GAAP reconciliations attached to our earnings release for additional financial information. In each quarter of 2010, our business unit leaders achieved or exceeded their commitments and executed well.
Fourth quarter was no exception as all five of our business units met or exceeded the guidance we gave during our last earnings release. For the details, consolidated revenue of $482 million was up 11% on a reported basis.
Excluding the impact of changes in foreign exchange rates, revenue grew 10%. During the quarter, acquisitions added approximately one percentage point of growth.
Constant dollar organic growth of 9% was the strongest we've seen in several years. On a non-GAAP basis, operating margin in the fourth quarter was 22.8%, flat when compared to the fourth quarter of 2009, excluding the restructuring charge.
Excluding amortization of acquisition intangibles, operating margin for the fourth quarter of 2010 was 27.6%, a great indicator of our strong cash-generating capability. Diluted earnings per share from continuing operations was $0.50, up 16% from $0.43 in the fourth quarter of 2009.
Excluding the impact of acquisition-related intangible amortization, adjusted earnings per share attributable to Equifax was $0.62, up 10% from $0.56 in the fourth quarter of 2009. During the quarter, we repurchased 1.5 million shares of stock for $51 million.
As of quarter end, our remaining Board authorization for share repurchase was $105 million. Moving to the individual business units.
U.S. Consumer Information Solutions revenue was $191 million, up 12% from the same quarter in 2009 and well ahead of the expectations we communicated during our third quarter earnings release.
Online Consumer Information Solutions revenue was $117 million, up 1% compared to 2009. Our year-over-year online credit decision volume trends have improved every quarter this year, beginning the year in the first quarter down 15%, improving every quarter sequentially and ending the year in the fourth quarter, showing growth of 4%.
Mortgage Solutions revenue of $29 million was up 27% compared to the fourth quarter of 2009. Both core mortgage reporting and Settlement Services contributed double-digit growth in the quarter, outpacing the Mortgage Bankers Application Index, which is up 9% from the fourth quarter a year ago, as we believe we have continued to gain share in these services.
Consumer Financial Marketing Services revenue was $45 million, up 46%. Credit Marketing Services delivered strong, double-digit growth driven by double-digit increases in both the prescreening and portfolio review product lines.
And in what is already typically a seasonally strong quarter, our new IXI business delivered strong growth, benefiting from a robust pipeline that developed over the course of the year. Although banks have significantly tightened their historical underwriting standards, we're beginning to see some improving trends that will support our growth expectations for 2011 and beyond.
Prescreened acquisition grew 20% for the quarter after growing 17% in the third quarter, two sequential quarters of strong double-digit growth. For the last four months, our online inquiry volume has experienced positive year-over-year growth, something we have not seen since the beginning of 2008.
And although still significantly below the peak in 2007, new bank card account origination has been trending up gradually since February. The operating margin for U.S.
Consumer Information Solutions was 36.3%, up 250 basis points from the fourth quarter of 2009, driven primarily by improving margins in Mortgage Solutions and Consumer Financial Marketing Services. Our International business units revenue was $126 million, up 7% from the fourth quarter in 2009.
In the local currency, revenue was up 6% from a year ago, nicely ahead of our expectations. By region, Latin America's revenue was $60 million, up 10% in U.S.
dollar terms and 7% in local currency, when compared to the same period in 2009. Europe's revenue was $36 million, up 1% in U.S.
dollars and up 6% in local currency, when compared to the same period in 2009. Both U.K.
and Spain delivered positive local currency growth despite challenging economic conditions in both countries. Our Canada Consumer information revenue was $29 million, up 10% in U.S.
dollars and 5% in local currency, when compared to the same period in 2009, with particular strength in product services and marketing services offerings. For International in total, Technology and Analytical Services, Marketing Services and Personal Information Solutions all delivered double-digit growth.
International's operating margin was 23.6%, down from 27.5% in 2009, reflecting the increased portion of marketing services versus online transaction revenue within our product mix and acceleration of our investment building our franchises in the U.K. and Brazil.
TALX revenue was $102 million for the quarter, up 14% from the fourth quarter of 2009, also ahead of the expectations we communicated during our third quarter earnings call. The Work Number continues to deliver strong double-digit growth with revenue of $54 million, up 30%.
Double-digit revenue growth in collections, consumer finance, mortgage, preemployment and government sectors all contributed to this strong performance. Tax and Talent Management Services revenue was $48 million, flat compared to last year.
And our TALX operating margin was 24.4%, up from 21.1% in 2009. North America Personal Solutions revenue was $38 million in the quarter, up 5% and on par with the outlook we gave during our third quarter call.
Direct-to-consumers subscription revenue was up 8% year-over-year, driven by increases in both average subscribers and average revenue per subscriber as we have focused increasingly on higher value offerings. Operating margin was 30.9% for the quarter, up from 28.1% a year ago, driven by improved productivity.
I would remind our investors that the fourth quarter margins tend to be seasonally high, and we continue to think of PSol as mid-twenties margin business. North America Commercial Solutions revenue was $25 million, up 12% on a reported basis and 11% in local currency, driven by strong double-digit transaction volume growth and renewals in our Data Management and Marketing segment of our U.S.
operations. Revenue was slightly better than the expectations we communicated in our third quarter call.
And the operating margin for the quarter was 32.3% compared to 34% in the year-ago quarter. Corporate expense for the quarter was up approximately $7 million compared to 2009, excluding the restructuring charge in 2009.
This increase was driven by increased investment in our IT infrastructure, additional professional fees associated with tax planning and staff development programs, fuel costs associated with the Anakam acquisition and higher incentive expense due to our stronger financial performance. For the full year, consolidated revenue from continuing operations was $1.9 billion, up 8% on a reported basis and 7% on a local currency basis.
On a GAAP basis, operating margin was 23.1% compared to 22.3% in 2009. Excluding the restructuring charges a year ago, the operating margin in 2009 was 23.7%.
Excluding the amortization of acquisition intangibles, adjusted operating margin for 2010 was 28%. Diluted earnings per share from continuing operations attributable to Equifax for the year was $1.86, up 9% from $1.70 in 2009.
Excluding the impact of acquisition-related intangible amortization and the restructuring charge in tax credit in 2009, adjusted earnings per share was $2.31, up 6% from $2.17 in 2009. During the year, we reduced total debt by $175 million, and we repurchased 5.2 million shares of stock for $168 million.
As you think about your financial modeling for 2011, you should also consider the following: corporate expense for the year will be up at a mid-single digit percentage range, which we expect to be less than our rate of revenue growth; our corporate tax rate, we expect to be between 36% and 38%; and we expect capital expenditures to be in the range of $75 million to $95 million for the year. Now let me turn it back to Rick.
Richard Smith
Thanks, Lee. Just a quick recap and we'll go to some Q&A.
In 2011, if you think about this, the year-over-year revenue growth should be relatively consistent each quarter throughout 2011, when compared to 2010. For the first half of the year, we will continue the strategic investments we began in the second half of 2010 that I mentioned before.
We expect operating margins to begin the year at levels similar to the second half of 2010 because of those strategic investments. However, we expect that they will improve nicely as we exit 2011.
For the first quarter of 2011, assuming the current exchange rates, we expect revenue from continuing operations to be up 6% to 8% from a year-ago quarter. Adjusted EPS from continuing operations is expected to be between $0.56 and $0.59, that is up 6% to 11% from continuing operations versus the first quarter of 2010.
Let me refresh everyone's memory. As you know, we sold a few businesses last year.
Those businesses sold contribute $0.03 of cash EPS earnings last year that are not continuing in 2011. Therefore, another way to look at it is cash EPS from continuing operations in the first quarter of 2010 was $0.53 a share.
And again, we're targeting $0.56 to $0.59 a share this year. We have great confidence in the long-term health and growth of Equifax.
Our disciplined execution and strategic investments should enable us to consistently deliver multiyear revenue growth in the 6% to 9% range with another one to three points of growth in adjusted EPS, resulting from operating and financial leverage. Okay, operator, we'd like to now open it up for any questions that they might have.
Operator
[Operator Instructions] And we'll take our first question from Carter Malloy with Stephens.
Carter Malloy - Stephens Inc.
So on the International business, what's the driver of deceleration in growth there from 4Q to 1Q? What specific geographies is that?
And then maybe as a follow-up to that, the investment you guys have been making in, I believe, over 100 headcount of new sales in Brazil, is that fully loaded in the model, so can we expect margins to stay or maybe improve on the international front?
Richard Smith
Yes, I think, quarter-over-quarter. There's nothing unusual occurring that drives a sequential delta in International.
It's more seasonality and nuances than anything. So, Carter, there is no flags of concern there at all.
On the investments, we talked about a number of investments. We talked, I think last time, of adding something like 143 to 145-ish to Brazil alone on the front end of the business.
We're also investing in other Latin American operations. We're investing in the U.K., as well, significantly, and almost all those investments are, again, sales, marketing and product management.
So what I said earlier, Carter, as it relates to margin. That investment start in the fourth quarter of 2010, so you saw that reflect in the margins in the fourth quarter.
That will continue through the first quarter and maybe the first month or two of the second quarter, and then we're done with that surge of investment. So the margin outlook I gave you, which is the first half of 2011, should look much like, in aggregate, the back end of 2010 and then improve nicely as we exit 2011.
Carter Malloy - Stephens Inc.
And can we assume that loading in all those new salespeople we'll see some acceleration in growth in the back half?
Richard Smith
Absolutely.
Carter Malloy - Stephens Inc.
And then also can you talk about the mortgage exposure? You talked about building out more products there.
What the mortgage exposure is in the business now and what your assumptions are and your guidance for overall industry activity?
Richard Smith
As I think about mortgage, it's an important sector for us. We are uniquely positioned to serve there, unlike anyone else.
We have got the employment data, we got the income data, we got the settlement services offering, got the credit file. So it's important to us.
And while the mortgage is going to be cyclical. It's obviously, as an industry, is a bit depressed at the current time.
It's always going to be an important part of the bank. So it's important to us to continue to innovate and think about how we can help banks in the mortgage sector.
Great example is the launching, I think we talked about it, of undisclosed debt monitoring, a really cool product. But all the banks are concerned about, make sure they understand how much debt you have from the time they -- first on [ph] until the time they close and if there's any debt you've actually taken on that's underscored at the time of the initial underwriting.
That's just one of many examples of how we're trying to innovate in mortgage. To answer your question specifically, we talked about mortgage being in the teens as a percent of our total revenue, it continues to be in that range.
I don't expect it long term. Even though we're innovating and growing at the rate faster than the MBA.
I don't expect the mix as a percentage of total to be disproportionate or much different than the mid-teens kind of range because we're going to grow our non-mortgage products, as well.
Carter Malloy - Stephens Inc.
But I assume in building your guidance that you guys have taken into account the MBA at volumes...
Richard Smith
Yes, we don't expect it. But the mortgage refinancing and the mortgage boom we saw in the third quarter has already - it's started to slow.
It started slow and then late third quarter, early fourth quarter. We're not expecting a strong mortgage market environment in 2011.
Carter Malloy - Stephens Inc.
And then on talks from some nice improvement margin there, can you talk about Dann's progress, that business since he's moved over, and where that should ultimately shake out your mind?
Richard Smith
I think he's doing a great job. Bill Canfield has been there for like a year as a consultant for him, he's helping him adjust.
Dann has brought his passion, his energy, his leadership. And most importantly, he's brought his knowledge of USCIS.
He and Rudy are working very, very well together on building new products, making joint calls, moving people around, so we can leverage the strength of both USCIS and the TALX product offering. So it’s making a big difference.
We're accelerating new product innovation there. He's taking his analytical mindset, Carter, which is something we really have looked at in the past in taking the analytics that have really helped us in USCIS and the rest of the world and now deploying those rapidly at TALX as well.
So he's done a great job.
Lee Adrean
But on the margin front on TALX, can we assume that he'll hold or maybe even improve the margins we see now?
Richard Smith
Yes, absolutely.
Operator
And moving forward, we will hear from George Mihalos with Bank of America Merrill Lynch.
Georgios Mihalos - BofA Merrill Lynch
Just on the margin front again, I appreciate your outlook, lower in the first half, stronger in the back half. Will you guys be able to hold margins at least flat for the full year compared to fiscal '10?
Richard Smith
Maybe I should clarify something. I didn't say it will be lower.
I don't expect the first half of 2011 to be lower than the second half of 2010. I expect it to look very much like that and then exit at a stronger rate in the second half.
And to answer your question, yes, I would expect us to get year-on-year margin increase 2011 versus 2010 and continuing that in 2012 and beyond.
Georgios Mihalos - BofA Merrill Lynch
Just an update on the pricing front, what you're seeing on the OCIS set?
Richard Smith
Nothing unusual. You're seeing a modest price compression on the data.
Very, very, modest compression. Actually flat pricing on the online in 2010.
Operator
And next, we'll hear from Julio Quinteros with Goldman Sachs.
Julio Quinteros - Goldman Sachs Group Inc.
What I wanted to do is just maybe sort of take apart sort of the consumer credit side versus the mortgage side and understand in your business as you guys think about the growth prospects, what is going to end up being the more important driver? Obviously you've already talked a little bit about the Mortgage business being relatively flat.
We can all see the data. But what will it take even on that side to continue to drive growth?
And then on the consumer credit side, as you guys think about bank activity, how quickly do you guys think that the banks ramp up in terms of credit issuance or what would be the main driver there to really think about the growth there from those two aspects?
Richard Smith
Let me start with the first part of your question, which is mortgage. And I kind of hit it a little bit earlier, Julio.
And that is I expect innovation to allow us to drive share gain in mortgage. We have done it with ESS or we have done it with other new products.
We have done it with TALX. We have done it with undisclosed debt monitoring.
We launched a team, Julio, a growth team with I think it was roughly 9% or 10% of our best and brightest last year. We took them off the their jobs full time for about a month and had them go look at the mortgage market.
So what else can we do in the mortgage market to add value and serve our customers in ways we haven't served before? And they came back with some amazing ideas, one of which was the UDM, but many more beyond that.
So that innovative thinking about how we can add value in mortgage will enable us to grow mortgage even though the market is going to probably not be cooperative in 2011. On the online piece, the core consumer credit, you look may at it that way, what I expect there is continuing to take our product and our offerings to new verticals and do things we haven't done before.
I'm really bullish on, as I mentioned before, this new database. We have a new positive telco and utility data.
I expect us to make headways, by the way, in the big banks. We're doing that now at J.P.
Morgan Chase, Citi, Bank of America and Wells. We got our new structure launched last year.
We talked last year about delving into insurance, that’s great successes there leveraging the Decision 360 and some insurance customers. So a lot of innovation and ways to grow the core consumer credit in ways we haven't before.
Specific to the environment of consumer credit, I expect it, again as I said earlier, to modestly improve in 2011 over 2010. We're seeing a slight uptick in our CMS Prescreen business.
We're seeing a nice uptick in our portfolio management. We'd like to eventually think that the CMS prescreen uptick leads to more online.
Kind of muted right now, but we'd expect that to pick up in 2011.
Julio Quinteros - Goldman Sachs Group Inc.
When you guys talk to the banks, are they at all talking to you guys about possibilities of, especially post Dodd-Frank and Durbin Interchange Rules, how are they thinking about credit as an opportunity to offset some of that potential lost synergy? I'm just curious if you guys have had any discussions along those lines as a thought process for helping them potentially offset some of that lost revenue there?
Richard Smith
One, they're cautious but becoming modestly more aggressive in getting back into the market. But still cautious.
Operator
And next, we'll hear from Dan Perlin with RBC Capital Markets.
Daniel Perlin - RBC Capital Markets, LLC
Some clear on the margin profile because I know there's a lot of discussion on it. The area of compression that we expect to see is really going to be in International in the first quarter and then throughout the year, improving in the back half.
But all the other segments look like, and from your commentary, sound like, they should continue to expand throughout the year. Is that a true statement?
Richard Smith
Well, the one I would say -- I don't have the exact data in front of me, so maybe I'll give you my quick reaction. The general answer is, yes.
I expect margin expansion continuing in USCIS; margin expansion continuing in TALX; compression, because they invested, in International, at the first half of the year and accelerating in the second half. But one's that's really I would expect to probably have a little compression, just because it's abnormally high, is PSol.
PSol on the fourth quarter, at almost 31%, is high. And that ebbs and flows, as you know, Dan, with marketing expenses.
And so there's some cyclicality to that, as well. But generically, yes, USCIS expansion, TALX expansion, a little compression in PSol, a little compression in International.
Daniel Perlin - RBC Capital Markets, LLC
And on the International side, I heard Lee mention investments, but I also heard him mention mix of revenues. And I just wanted to flesh out the kind of the order of magnitude there from margin compression?
Richard Smith
On the international front or in total?
Daniel Perlin - RBC Capital Markets, LLC
Well, I thought his commentary was in relation to the International segment. He just hit the margin, and then he said something about mix of revenue, which I missed.
And then obviously, we've talked a lot about the investments.
Lee Adrean
Yes, we've commented for several quarters that a portion of the emerging margin pressure in International, they come from online services in several countries being under pressure. And we were offsetting that with newer marketing services, true in the U.K.
with pressure on consumer lending there, true in Spain with pressures there, true on specific sectors in Brazil and Chile as well. And we've done a great job of bringing other products to market to offset that, but not with quite as strong a margin structure as online.
And we've said that for several quarters. That continues to be an issue.
I think right now the greater issue is the investments we're making in reestablishing a higher rate of growth in International. I think the margin, the product mix is leveling out.
Daniel Perlin - RBC Capital Markets, LLC
I was trying to figure out the order of magnitude. One, you obviously could control, the other one is a bit of a mix.
So you're saying the heavy lifting is really in investments. And that's what drove the confidence in the back half?
Lee Adrean
That's correct.
Daniel Perlin - RBC Capital Markets, LLC
And then just briefly on the transactions that we saw in online USCIS. I thought I heard you say up 4%.
If I heard you right, so that will be the first quarter in a long time that actually turned positive? Was that the right number, first of all?
Lee Adrean
Yes, that's correct.
Daniel Perlin - RBC Capital Markets, LLC
And then if we think about in the context of the revenue per transaction in that quarter, it looks like it was down about 3% year-on-year. Someone else asked a question about pricing, but that doesn't seem to jive with that number, so I'm wondering what's the disconnect?
Lee Adrean
Yes, there are a couple of other revenue sources in the online business that usually move pretty much in line with the rest of online. But periodically it can cause a little bit of distortion if you simply look at transactions versus total online revenue.
When we look at it, we break it down into the individual lines and get very precise. If you look purely at the online credit report business, unit revenue was flat year-over-year.
Daniel Perlin - RBC Capital Markets, LLC
So there's nothing in that mix that we need to be kind of concerned about as a downward trend? Because the previous three quarters you had negative transaction growth, but you had revenue per transaction up in aggregate, I mean with the data that we can see.
Lee Adrean
I would say on that, the key thing over the -- frankly, a good part of the last two years is if you take that measure, aggregate measure, average unit revenue has been up a number of quarters over the last two years, which has been predominantly a mix-related issue among different customer sets. We expect, going forward, that that mix is not going to be helping us further.
In fact, some of the larger lenders who have become a slightly smaller portion of our mix in the last two years is they retrenched the most significantly are more likely to get a little more aggressive. So I think what you'll likely see is a return to the traditional pattern of slight reported average unit revenue declines year-over-year.
Daniel Perlin - RBC Capital Markets, LLC
But with big volumes coming back, so that should be a high quality pop in the half? [ph]
Richard Smith
Dan, the one thing I didn't give you clarity on when you asked me the question on margin, I told you the USCIS should expect margin expansion next year, TALX expansion next year, modest compression of PSol just because of the marketing spend. And one I did not mention was Commercial.
Commercial, you should also see nice margin expansion in 2011.
Operator
And next, we'll hear from Andrew Jeffrey with SunTrust.
Andrew Jeffrey - SunTrust Robinson Humphrey Capital Markets
Rick, you had a great year in TALX with strong double-digit revenue growth. And despite a challenging economy, so a testament to share gains.
I think I heard you say in the first quarter you're looking for high single-digit growth in what should ostensibly be an improving employment environment. Is that conservatism or law of large numbers or is TALX no longer, in your mind, sort of a double-digit revenue grower?
How should we be thinking about that?
Richard Smith
Well, Andrew, I don't expect a significantly improving employment environment in the first quarter, to be honest. We expect first quarter, in fact the first half, to look much like the fourth quarter 2010 looked.
Secondly, we had a nice one up in the mortgage market in 2010. That's already started to moderate a bit, and I expect that to continue.
So I still am very bullish. We got great new products out there, Dann’s doing some great things.
So it could be a great growth business for us with expanding margins for as far as I can see.
Andrew Jeffrey - SunTrust Robinson Humphrey Capital Markets
So an improvement in the employment environment would be upside?
Richard Smith
Absolutely.
Andrew Jeffrey - SunTrust Robinson Humphrey Capital Markets
One of the things I know you talked about, I think you called out $176 million in revenues from your products that you'd launched in '07 and '09. When you think about your 6% to 9% sustainable, organic revenue growth, longer term, is it a couple points to that growth that should be coming from new products every year as you look at recently launched solutions, as well as new initiatives you have in the pipeline?
Is that about the right level?
Richard Smith
That's a great question. Look at this, when we break out the model and you think about the core economic growth, you think about products and initiatives and then you think about M&A.
The core economic growth is probably in the 1% to 3% range, product and initiatives around three points of growth and then M&A 1, 2 points on top of that over time.
Andrew Jeffrey - SunTrust Robinson Humphrey Capital Markets
You've been acquisitive. It looks like, especially -- it sounds like IXI just had a fantastic quarter, so you're starting to get some traction from recent acquisitions.
Where do you think you could fill in the blanks a little bit? Acquisitively, is it more data?
And then when you think about the things you could do, is it a one- to two-year lag between making an acquisition, say, of proprietary data and seeing it translate into revenue or is that too long a time gap?
Richard Smith
Thank you for the commentary on IXI. We're very pleased with it, not just a great quarter but a great year, culturally, process-wise, leadership-wise, they grew and integrated well into the company, which is great.
And the combination of IXI data, the TALX data and the credit data is really making a difference in the marketplace with improvements, so thank you for noticing that. As far as acquisitions go, Andrew, we got a strong balance sheet.
I don't depend on acquisitions for our growth. Some neat assets out there we always look at in all parts of the world.
Geographical expansion is always interesting. Strengthening our current international footprints is always interesting to us, more data assets.
More in the area of IT management is intriguing, so the opportunity for M&A is good for us today. As far as lag or time line from the time we acquire, it really varies, but some of them [ph] we actually buy.
My view is you buy a company that’s already got great internal organic [indiscernible] because the synergies you get do take some time before you can actually realize those.
Operator
And moving on, we will hear from Michael Meltz with JPMorgan.
Michael Meltz - JP Morgan Chase & Co
One follow-up from the last question on TALX. I just want to clarify, I don't think you're actually pointing to a deceleration at TALX.
You had rapid reporting in there that helped your 2010, so you only grew say 7%, 8% organic and now you're pointing to high-single digit, is that fair?
Richard Smith
Great point. You're right.
We grandfathered rapid reporting. I think it was in the third and fourth quarter last year.
You're right.
Michael Meltz - JP Morgan Chase & Co
And then your CapEx spend ramped. I know you've been talking about spending more on CapEx for four years now.
It ramped in '10. Your guidance I'm actually intrigued to see implies a drop in '11.
And so just explain to me a little bit is, are you feeling pretty good about where you are platform oriented? And now when you're talking about investments, it's people-oriented or data acquisition, and so you're much closer to having these investments contribute to growth, is that fair?
Or how do you think about that?
Lee Adrean
First, just a quick comparison. The $100 million of CapEx in 2010 included $29 million to buy out the lease on our building, our headquarters building, which was actually announced -- the intention to do that was announced in 2009, but the actual cash payment was in 2010.
So we're in the low 70s. And we think the range from the 70s into the 90s is about at an appropriate, sustainable range, which you're right.
The bulk of that is new product-oriented. So it's development staff and the software development related to new products, and then secondarily, it's the equipment to accommodate growth and then the new products.
And that's a very comfortable range for us.
Michael Meltz - JP Morgan Chase & Co
When you're talking about all this go-to-market people in Latin America, is there a specific niche of the market you're targeting? We're seeing robust growth from experience from SMEs, is that what you're targeting here?
Or could you give us a little more detail around specific parts of the market that are appealing to Equifax that you're hiring to target?
Richard Smith
Let me start at a little higher level, come quickly down to Brazil and the target markets there. So the investments we've made are in the U.K., countries outside of Brazil, in Latin America and in Brazil itself, not just Brazil.
But specifically in Brazil, I talked to 140-some-odd people last time. The majority of those or in the SMEs we're also in telcos and the banks, as well.
Michael Meltz - JP Morgan Chase & Co
This might be in the [indiscernible] But in efficiency metric, what's a seasoned salesperson for Equifax -- what type of revenue bag should that person be contributing?
Richard Smith
Well, we got those metrics, Michael, not [ph] on top of my head, specifically for Brazil. But if you're interested in that, Jeff, reach out to [ph] on that after the call.
We have a very detailed plan that we laid out and treated much like you treat CapEx investment, Michael, if you will. Before we decided to make that kind of investment in Brazil, there was a return on investment that we have.
So we have some metric price sales Jeff will get you offline.
Operator
And let's hear next from Eric Boyer with Wells Fargo.
Eric Boyer - Wells Fargo Securities, LLC
We saw a great growth in your new product initiative in 2010. Can you give us a sense for the growth you see with those initiatives in 2011 and whether those should have a greater contribution to the revenue growth rate in 2011 compared to 2010?
Richard Smith
The answer to your question is, since your question is great growth in 2010 from new products, basically will that continue in 2011? Is that your question?
Eric Boyer - Wells Fargo Securities, LLC
Yes.
Richard Smith
Our targeted contribution over a long period of time from new products to revenue is 10% of our revenue comes from product launched in the last three year. We call that a vitality index.
It's a rolling three-year look, Eric, and you may have some ebbs and flows. If you have a particularly large product launch one year, it doesn’t repeat three years down the road.
In general terms, our objective clearly is 10% from new products.
Eric Boyer - Wells Fargo Securities, LLC
Just as far as 2010 compared to 2011, can you just give us a sense if there's any type of [indiscernible] due to the rolling off of the products within that three-year cycle?
Lee Adrean
No, I think we would expect the comparable contributions as a percent of revenue and a comparable contribution to incremental growth in '11 or '10.
Eric Boyer - Wells Fargo Securities, LLC
You had divestitures in 2010, are you're mostly complete with those now? I guess asked differently, are there pieces of your business, without getting into specifics, that you feel are core to where Equifax is going?
Richard Smith
We continue to look at that as you might guess routinely on our three-year planning process. But at this junction, no, I don't see a need or desire to disclose of any other piece of the portfolio at this time.
Eric Boyer - Wells Fargo Securities, LLC
Anything that we should think about as far as being different from the normal seasonality of your business for the top line of 2011?
Richard Smith
No, I gave you some thinking, that as you think about the year-on-year comparison as far as the growth year-on-year, quarter-to-quarter, it’s going to look fairly similar each quarter. So it's not expected to have a ramp up as it relates to comparative growth versus 2010.
Operator
And moving forward, we will hear from Dan Leben with Robert W. Baird.
Daniel Leben - Robert W. Baird & Co. Incorporated
With the investments rolling off a little bit in the back half, is this kind of the end of a kind of a four-year significant investment cycle? Or should we expect the new pattern to be another set of investment coming in first half of 2012 and then ramping down in the back half of 2012?
Richard Smith
I'll answer it this way. We have the ability, the balance sheet, the wherewithal to make investments as we did make investments for growth.
So you’ll always see us making the right investments in CapEx, organic growth and people. However, as it relates to margins, kind of the heart of your question, as I said before, this business model has the ability to deliver incremental margin and deliver the 24% to 26% margin over time.
That's the path we’re on. Even if we do decide to make incremental investments in organic growth.
Operator
And next, we'll hear from Shlomo Rosenbaum with Stifel, Nicolaus.
Shlomo Rosenbaum - Stifel, Nicolaus & Co., Inc.
Just a few housekeeping things on some of the corporate costs. Are some of the international costs in the ramp up, are any of that stuff being absorbed on the corporate costs or they're all being allocated to International?
Lee Adrean
No, the international investments are entirely in the international P&L.
Shlomo Rosenbaum - Stifel, Nicolaus & Co., Inc.
So the ramp up, can you walk us through what some of the ramp up on the corporate cost through the year are going to be comprised of?
Richard Smith
Are you referring to last year, Shlomo, or for 2011?
Shlomo Rosenbaum - Stifel, Nicolaus & Co., Inc.
2011.
Lee Adrean
Well, 2011, as I said, we're looking at kind of mid-single-digit percentage growth, which is a slightly more than inflation but less than revenue, and it really is kind of what I would describe as normal business growth at this point.
Shlomo Rosenbaum - Stifel, Nicolaus & Co., Inc.
And then everyone's asking about the margins. The basic question everyone wants to get to is how long is it going to take for you guys get to the bottom end of that long-term range?
Is that something we should think of in a year from now when you get a ramp up in the second half of this year? Or is that something that is kind of an aspirational thing, that it’s one of those three to five year targets that companies put out all the time?
Richard Smith
Great question, Shlomo, and very direct. I would like to think as we exit 2011 we're getting very close to that number and clearly at that number in 2012.
Shlomo Rosenbaum - Stifel, Nicolaus & Co., Inc.
Do you expect 2012 to be in the lower end over there?
Richard Smith
Correct.
Shlomo Rosenbaum - Stifel, Nicolaus & Co., Inc.
And then just last housekeeping thing about free cash flow, how should we think of free cash flow through the year? And are you expecting a much better free cash flow number or you're just kind of looking at some of the ramp up minus the cost of building through the year?
How do you think about that, Lee?
Lee Adrean
A couple things. First, if you look at -- everyone's got different definition of free cash flow.
We would typically look at cash from operations, less CapEx, less dividend. And of course we just raised our dividend, that's a different effect.
The key thing you might note in 2010 is that cash from operations was down and the prime driver of that - there are two drivers, but the prime one is we made some significant contributions to the pension plan this year. Frankly, because that's a frozen plan, I think of that more as a financing step than an operating step, but we do not expect that to recur in 2011.
I think we're very comfortable with how that plan is funded. So I think what you'll see is cash from operations, particularly due to balance sheet changes such as the pension contribution in 2010.
Cash from operations should be up nicely. It'll also be up in line with net income.
So you'll see stronger cash flow next year than this year, but largely due to balance sheet changes. The pattern within year seasonally, the first quarter is the lowest cash flow quarter just because the timing of certain assets and liabilities.
And then the next three quarters tend to be fairly consistent among them. Does that answer your question?
Shlomo Rosenbaum - Stifel, Nicolaus & Co., Inc.
Yes. Can you just remind us what the pension contribution was for last year?
Lee Adrean
The total contributions we made in 2010 were $50 million.
Shlomo Rosenbaum - Stifel, Nicolaus & Co., Inc.
And what do you expect in 2011?
Lee Adrean
$10 million.
Operator
Moving forward, we will hear from Manav Patnaik of Barclays Capital.
Manav Patnaik - Barclays Capital
Firstly on the marketing side in CFMS, obviously some nice growth. Is that basically a lot of seasonality with benefits and marketing in the fourth quarter?
Or was there something more, better than your internal expectations you've seen that could be a leading indicator of better things to come?
Richard Smith
I don't think it's seasonality. We had a strong growth in the account management piece of CFMS, which was great.
And you saw a pickup in the prescreen as well, but some more of those event any kind of seasonality.
Manav Patnaik - Barclays Capital
Any takeaways from there though in terms of that continuing to maintain its momentum basically going into the quarters 2011?
Richard Smith
The trends are positive, and the hope is that they obviously, the prescreen pick up eventually it will pick up in the online.
Lee Adrean
One thing I would note, we had I think it was 30% growth in that segment, generally, CFMS in total. Some of that was still affected by the addition of IXI.
I think of the traditional Credit Marketing Services as having grown at a double-digit rate in the fourth quarter. What was it, pretty low base?
And then very strong growth in IXI, as we've really seen, what we expected when we acquired that business. In total I think that that line of revenue kind of could grow in the very low double digits, respectively, as you truly anniversary-ed IXI now, but you're still seeing a much better environment for a Credit Marketing than we saw a year ago.
Manav Patnaik - Barclays Capital
On the North America on the commercial side, can you just remind us again of the seasonality in the margins. And also, just sort of your take on what the competitive environment is there?
Richard Smith
On the seasonality, there's a piece to that business that is strongly back-end loaded, meaning down in [ph] fourth quarter. And as a result, the revenue tends to be higher in the fourth quarter than the prior three quarter, and as a result incremental margins there, some margins is expanded in the fourth quarter versus the first three.
As far as the environment itself, the team is doing a great job, we’re gaining share on commercial going obviously at a faster rate than the market itself. So the growth prospects for commercial are great going forward.
Manav Patnaik - Barclays Capital
If you can remind us, obviously it looks like a free cash flow guidance or anecdotally what you've said should show improvement, you've already raised the dividend. Just in terms of the way you're looking at in terms of additional share buybacks and obviously there's a level of acquisition investment, can you just remind us your priorities there?
Lee Adrean
Within our free cash flow, if you take it as I defined, which is cash from operations, less CapEx, less dividends, obviously, free cash flow is after we've already funded organic growth to the fullest extent of the opportunities we have. And that reflects a dividend, that's got a dividend yield just slightly under 2% now.
The remaining cash flow is going to go to a mix of acquisition, share buyback, debt reduction, we're very comfortable with where we are. We're a little bit at the lower end of our range on debt leverage.
So first, we're going to look at acquisitions, and if we have the right acquisitions that add strategically to what we do and we believe we can get a good return, that's going to be the first priority. And at the current level of leverage, the remainder after acquisition would go to share repurchase.
Operator
Our next question will come from Bill Warmington with Raymond James.
William Warmington - Raymond James & Associates
You've talked in the past about the need to generate organic revenue growth above 3% to 4% in order to produce operating margin expansion, and given the investment you guys have been and where we are in the cycle, is that still the way you think we should look at that model?
Lee Adrean
Yes, as I think Rick has stated, we're kind of at -- we have made some important investments in our business right now. I think the direct implication of what he said is we're not going to increase from this level.
If anything, we'll come off this level a little bit as we work through some key investments internationally. And with that being said, yes, it's somewhere as we cross over about 4% you'll start seeing some margin expansions.
William Warmington - Raymond James & Associates
And then you'd mentioned a couple of emerging revenue opportunities, the National Consumer Telecom & Utilities Exchange plus and the also alternative identification data. When do you think these start to become some notable contributors to revenue?
Do you start to see it in 2011 or is it more 2012?
Richard Smith
If you're being specific, there are so many things we have going on in innovation and new products, as you know. If your question is specific to the positive telco utility database and IV [ph], the answer is, yes, in 2011.
Operator
And next, we'll hear from Nath Otis with KBW.
Nathaniel Otis - Keefe, Bruyette, & Woods, Inc.
Just a quick follow-up on that capital question. One, is there any buyback factored into your 1Q guidance?
Lee Adrean
Yes. Essentially, no.
I mean, it's hard to impact the current quarter with share buybacks and certainly in a quarter where our cash flow was the lowest of the year because of some seasonal balance sheet items. It really couldn't affect the first quarter earnings per share.
Our guidance is really based on the progress of the business.
Nathaniel Otis - Keefe, Bruyette, & Woods, Inc.
And then can you give any color, talking about acquisitions, can you give any color on the competition you're seeing out there with those data assets?
Richard Smith
The competition?
Nathaniel Otis - Keefe, Bruyette, & Woods, Inc.
Yes, competition now versus a couple of years ago. I mean, there are certainly other players out there with capital as well to spend.
It seems to be a little bit of a seller's market maybe, but just any color on who you're going up against? Not necessarily specifically but just the type of market for those data assets?
Richard Smith
Well, generically, it is expected in this environment that the private equity firms are obviously flushed with cash and getting back into the market. But where we tend to be more successful is when we are not on an auction process, but we are actually cultivating relationships with people we've known and have worked with and establish net [ph] relationship and partnership in volume, like TALX as an example.
IXI is a great example of that. Anakam is a great example of that.
Some more international properties [ph] is a good example of that. So generically, PE is expected to be more aggressive going forward.
That's kind of our model.
Nathaniel Otis - Keefe, Bruyette, & Woods, Inc.
Any traction or anything on the horizon in kind of a public sector vertical market?
Richard Smith
The benefit we get from Anakam, as I mentioned before, is they have a strong -- this is in the U.S. anyways, they have a strong working knowledge of the government sector in the U.S.
They've got strong relationships there and a strong revenue stream. So we trying to leverage that in the U.S.
We do a fair amount in the public sector in the U.K., as well. That's a good market for us.
So the answer is yes. I don't see it as significantly changing our revenue for the product going forward, but we'll leverage Anakam, there’s strength there, and we'll continue to build out products in the U.K.
Jeffrey Dodge
We'll terminate the call at this point. We’ll be available for the rest of the day to answer any other questions.
So thanks everybody for your participation. And with that, we'll end the call.
Operator
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