Oct 26, 2017
Executives
Jill Evanko – Chief Financial Officer Bill Johnson – President and Chief Executive Officer
Analysts
Rob Brown – Lake Street Capital Markets Eric Stine – Craig-Hallum Martin Malloy – Johnson Rice Ole Slorer – Morgan Stanley Pavel Molchanov – Raymond James Jeff Osborne – Cowen and Company Matthew Trusz – Gabelli
Operator
Good morning, and welcome to the Chart Industries, Inc. 2017 Third Quarter Conference Call.
[Operator Instructions] As a reminder, today’s call is being recorded. You should have already received the company’s earnings release that was issued earlier this morning.
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I would now like to turn the conference call over to Jill Evanko, Chart Industries' CFO. You may begin your conference.
Jill Evanko
Thank you, Christie. Good morning, everyone.
Thank you for joining us today. I will begin by giving you an overview of our third quarter results, including our recently closed acquisitions of Hudson Products in Energy & Chemicals and VCT Vogel in Distribution & Storage.
I will provide our revised outlook for 2017 and the status of the benefits from our restructuring activities. Then, Bill Johnson, President and CEO, will provide comments on current market and order trends across the 3 business segments.
Net income for the third quarter of 2017 was $1.5 million or $0.05 per diluted share. Third quarter 2017 earnings would have been $0.30 per diluted share, excluding $2.7 million of restructuring costs and $7.4 million of acquisition-related costs.
This compares with net income of $2.8 million, or $0.09 per diluted share for the second quarter of 2017, or $0.21 per diluted share on a comparable adjusted basis. Third quarter 2016 net income was $15 million or $0.48 per diluted share.
The third quarter of 2016 net income included the benefit of the BioMedical insurance settlement of $16 million. Total sales for the third quarter of 2017 increased to $240.5 million from $238.2 million in the second quarter of the year, and $203.9 million in the third quarter of 2016.
Third quarter 2017 included results of Hudson Products, which closed on September 20. Hudson contributed $6.1 million in sales and $1.2 million in operating income to Chart in September, while VCT Vogel, which closed August 31, contributed approximately $400,000 of sales and $110,000 of operating income.
Excluding Hudson and VCT Vogel, sales declined sequentially from the second quarter of 2017 by 1.8%, driven by timing of cryobiological sales in our BioMedical segment. We still forecast a record sales year in cryobiological.
Growth from the third quarter of 2016 to the third quarter of 2017 was 18%, or 15% excluding Hudson and VCT Vogel sales. Our volume in the third quarter was not directly affected by Hurricane Harvey.
We have 4 facilities in the Greater Houston, Texas area, including our newly acquired Hudson 685,000 square-foot manufacturing facility in Beasley, Texas. While none of the 4 facilities had water damage, production was impacted for approximately 1 week in early September at Hudson before we closed on the acquisition.
2017 revenues are not expected to be impacted. While we have not seen order activity materially impacted either positively or negatively from the storm, the Tuf-Lite fan product line of Hudson has seen an additional $1 million in posthurricane damage-related sales.
With regard to our employees, Chart and Hudson have raised $67,000 to date to support our employees in impacted areas. Our backlog, inclusive of Hudson, is $480.7 million at the end of the third quarter of 2017.
Backlog excluding third quarter acquisitions increased 6.4% to $390.6 million from the end of the second quarter. Orders for the third quarter were $268 million, including $3.8 million of orders from Hudson, driving the third consecutive quarter of sequential order growth for Chart.
We forecast increasing order trends for the fourth quarter, driven by the following: natural gas demand in both petrochemical and LNG export projects. Specifically, activity related to equipment for cryogenic gas plant development has generated year-to-date orders of approximately $20 million for Chart’s brazed aluminum heat exchanger content and additional air cooled heat exchanger content.
This compares to no orders for natural gas processing in 2016. We have direct line of sight to multiple E&C orders, each of which is greater than $5 million per order and anticipated in the fourth quarter.
We have received 1 order for air cooled heat exchangers this past week for $6 million. Order activity to date in October is in line with our forecast.
Bill will speak more about our markets and elaborate on our outlook for orders shortly. Gross profit as a percent of sales in the third quarter of 2017 was 29.3% compared to 26.5% in the second quarter of 2017.
Gross profit for the third quarter was $70.4 million and was unfavorably impacted by $300,000 of restructuring costs. Gross profit included $2.2 million from Hudson.
Gross profit for the second quarter of 2017was $63.2 million, inclusive of $2 million of restructuring costs. BioMedical third quarter gross margin as a percent of sales of 38.7% increased sequentially by 150 basis points from the second quarter of 2017.
This reflects the reduced cost structure from the Buffalo, New York respiratory facility consolidation. D&S third quarter gross margin as a percent of sales of 29.1% sequentially increased 340 basis points over the second quarter.
E&C gross margin as a percent of sales improved sequentially from 13.3% in the second quarter to 18.6% in the third quarter, which included 260 basis points from the inclusion of Hudson. E&C gross margin was driven in part by additional LNG front-end engineering design projects in the third quarter.
We continue to see improvement in SG&A expenses on a normalized basis. SG&A for the third quarter of 2017 was $66.7 million, inclusive of $7.4 million of acquisition- related costs, $2.4 million of restructuring costs and $600,000 of SG&A for Hudson.
SG&A for the second quarter of 2017 was $50.2 million, inclusive of $3 million of restructuring costs and $1 million of acquisition-related costs. Additionally, SG&A in the second quarter of 2017 included a $1.6 million benefit from the adjustment of a prior acquisition earn-out.
We expect to see a continued sequential quarterly reduction to our SG&A in the fourth quarter. Both gross margin and SG&A are beginning to reflect the results from our previously announced restructuring activities, with which we are substantially complete.
Year-to-date through the third quarter, we have spent $12.4 million of our anticipated $13.9 million of full-year restructuring cost. Previously, we had indicated that full-year restructuring cost would total $12.6 million and result in $10 million of annual run rate savings beginning in 2018.
In the third quarter, we completed an additional SG&A reduction in force, which will add another $5 million of annual savings on top of the previously announced $10 million. Therefore, the anticipated change in earnings from 2017 to 2018 associated with the restructuring will be approximately $29 million, $14 million from restructuring costs in 2017 not repeating in 2018 and $15 million of anticipated full-year benefits from those actions.
An update on each of the restructuring activities. First, the BioMedical, Buffalo, New York respiratory facility consolidation was completed on schedule as of March 31, 2017.
And we are seeing the benefits in the improved gross margin as a percent of sales in both the second and third quarter. Third quarter BioMedical gross margin as a percent of sales of 38.7% was 600 basis points improved over the first quarter of 2017.
Second, the E&C Wuxi, China consolidation, as discussed on the second quarter earnings calls, was completed on schedule as of June 30. Third, the D&S China facility consolidation continues to be on track for completion by the end of the year.
Fourth, our corporate headquarters moved from Cleveland, Ohio to Canton, Georgia is substantially complete with all key roles filled in Canton. We are already partially realizing the savings from the transition and the reminder of the savings will come after the lease expires on December 31, 2017.
Lastly, our third quarter reduction in force to continue to rightsize our SG&A structure is complete. There is no further restructuring cost to be taken associated with this, and we will realize a full quarter of savings in the fourth quarter.
2018 will benefit from this cost reduction by $5 million. Moving to our outlook for the remainder of the year.
This guidance includes the 2017 impact from the Hudson and VCT Vogel acquisitions. Sales guidance is expected to be in the range of $940 million to $975 million, raised from prior sales guidance of $875 million to $925 million.
We expect full year adjusted earnings per diluted share to be in the range of $0.75 to $0.90 per share, on approximately 31.3 million weighted average shares outstanding. This excludes the impact from restructuring and acquisition-related costs and assumes a full year 2017 tax rate of 34%.
Adjusted earnings per diluted share guidance previously was $0.65 to $0.80. We estimate our capital expenditures for 2017 to be in the range of $35 million to $45 million, inclusive of Hudson’s $1.5 million of expected fourth quarter capital spend.
We will provide 2018 guidance during our fourth quarter 2017 conference call. I will now turn the call over to Bill Johnson to discuss each segments results and the trends in our end markets.
Bill Johnson
Thank you, Jill, and good morning, everyone. I will provide an update on each segments third quarter results as well as market trends we are seeing as we finish 2017 and head into 2018.
Energy & Chemicals segment sales of $46.6 million, $40.5 million excluding Hudson, were organically flat to the second quarter of 2017 and up 71% versus the third quarter of 2016, which excluded Hudson. During the third quarter, our E&C business booked $65.9 million in orders, including $3.8 million for Hudson.
This was a second sequential quarter with E&C orders above $60 million and the largest since the third quarter of 2016. U.S.
upstream oil and natural gas end markets have strengthened over the past 12 months, generating increased air cooled heat exchanger demand for natural gas processing plants. And multi- year build-out of natural gas transmission infrastructure continues to drive improved air cooled heat exchanger demand for compressor stations.
Natural gas demand from both petrochemical and LNG export projects have continued to show strength in the third quarter. Much of that demand is being fulfilled from Permian associated gas, resulting in increased demand for midstream cryogenic gas plants.
As Jill mentioned, this development has generated year-to-date orders of approximately $20 million for Chart’s brazed aluminum heat exchangers and additional air cooled heat exchanger content. The addition of fans through our Hudson acquisition has diversified exposure to power generation and increased aftermarket activity.
Aftermarket demand across fans end markets has driven steady demand for both the Tuf-Lite and Cofimco product Hudson brands. On the air cooled heat exchangers side of the business, for both Chart legacy and Hudson, demand has continued to strengthen over the past 12 months from U.S.
upstream oil and natural gas market improvements and a multi- year build-out of natural gas transmission infrastructure. We continue to anticipate that the forecasted global supply-demand balance for LNG will be reached in 2022, 2023, thereby, driving LNG export facility orders in late 2018, earlier 2019.
It is worth noting that a majority of upcoming projects for U.S. LNG export have transitioned from utilizing traditional single train baseload plants to multi-train mid-scale projects with a modular approach to achieve baseload capabilities.
This is important to Chart because multi-train mid-scale uses Chart’s patented IPSMR technology as well as our brazed aluminum heat exchanger and cold boxes as the main liquefaction heat exchanger technology. As U.S.
LNG projects reach FID, Chart is uniquely positioned to be the supplier for these opportunities. Our IPSMR technology is generating a high level of interest in a number of mid-scale applications and LNG front-end engineering and design activities are picking up.
We are seeing a recent trend in the market where developers are specifying our technology before an EPC is selected. In addition to previously announced discussions with Tellurian and Cheniere, we are also holding discussions with several global energy companies.
We took orders for IPSMR engineering work for approximately $6 million in the third quarter. D& S sales increased $1.8 million to $139.3 million compared to the second quarter of 2017 and $12.6 million compared to the third quarter of 2016.
U.S. Packaged Gas, China industrial gas trailers and vaporization stations drove the favorability compared to both the prior quarter and the prior year quarter.
In our D&S business, we booked orders of $134.1 million in the third quarter, flat to the second quarter of this year. All regions are seeing order strength in LNG vehicle tanks, and total European D&S orders were up 35% sequentially over the second quarter of 2017.
Quotation activity has increased for CO2 systems in North America, driven by industrial applications in beverage, food freezing and dairy. Bulk systems orders increased 8% sequentially in the third quarter, while packaged gas orders were reduced by approximately the same amount quarter-to-quarter.
The packaged gas order decline was due to timing, and we expect a sequential increase in the fourth quarter in total D&S orders. D&S China continues to show signs of recovery with orders of $28.5 million in the third quarter of 2017.
In October, we have received a framework agreement for an LNG trailer order in D&S China totaling approximately $9 million. Sales in D&S Asia were $25.5 million, second quarter in a row above $25 million.
D&S Asia is operating at positive EBITDA for the past 2 quarters. As mentioned in our second quarter earnings call, growth in the marine markets remained strong in Europe, the Caribbean, Latin America and Southeast Asia.
With anticipated 2020 International Maritime Organization sulfur regulations, Chart is engaged in a number of development efforts for preparation of LNG conversions and LNG bunkering opportunities. Additionally, LNG marine bunkering is nearly strength in growth as Chart supply tanks sized from 500 to 1,000 cubic meters as well as regasification equipment for these bunkering applications.
Supported by new vehicle offerings in 2016, the LNG truck market in Europe has had a significant increase in 2017 and is expected to have continued growth in 2018. Moving to BioMedical.
Third quarter BioMedical sales of $54.7 million decreased from the second quarter sales of $60.7 million, driven primarily by the cryobiological strength in the second quarter returning to normal levels in the third quarter. BioMedical orders increased 7% sequentially over the second quarter of 2017 to $57.9 million.
Respiratory orders increased 6%, while commercial orders increased 63%, notably including a $2.4 million large goldmine order received in the quarter. Orders in all geographies increased sequentially over the second quarter with Europe and Asia both above 10% sequential growth.
As Jill mentioned earlier on the call, BioMedical gross margins improved 150 basis points for the second quarter of 2000 – from the – over the second quarter of 2017. We are pleased with the progress since the beginning of the year reflecting our streamlined cost structure.
Total headcount in BioMedical has been reduced by 147 heads or 17% since the end of the third quarter of 2016. I will now open it up for questions.
Christie, please provide instructions to the participants to be able to ask questions.
Operator
[Operator Instructions] Our first question is from the line of Rob Brown of Lake Street Capital Markets.
Rob Brown
Good morning.
Bill Johnson
Good morning.
Jill Evanko
Good morning.
Rob Brown
You mentioned the LNG FEED studies and engineering activity picking up, could you give us some sense of what the – what sort of pipeline that engineering activity supports?
Bill Johnson
I mean, we continue to see a lot of interest in our IPSMR technology, in particular. We have a number of customers who’re asking us to do studies on it.
I don’t want to talk about the specific customers, but…
Rob Brown
Okay. Fair enough.
And then on the Hudson acquisition, you’ve now closed it. Maybe – could you give us a sense of your view on the opportunity there and – in terms of integration activity and end market – market growth?
Bill Johnson
Yes, I mean, we closed on it on – what?
Jill Evanko
September 20.
Bill Johnson
September 20. So we’re just now starting the real integration work.
We’re pleased with the first month or so of what we bought. I can say there is no big surprises that we found.
We anticipate them meeting or exceeding the plan that we have for the acquisition, and we look to 2018 with the combined business of our air cooled heat exchanger in there – air cooled heat exchangers to be probably flat 2017 to 2018, because the drivers in that business right now are the natural gas processing plants. We’ve seen that uptick happen this year.
We forecasted that same up – same level of activity will be driving the businesses in 2018. So I would say we’re very pleased with where we’re at and then going into 2018.
Jill Evanko
And Rob, we continue to expect to achieve the $7 million plus of cost synergies from that integration in the first 18 months, and our 2018 outlook is above $200 million in sales for Hudson and EBITDA margin of 22%.
Rob Brown
Okay, great thank you. I’ll turn it over.
Operator
Thank you. Our next question is from Eric Stine of Craig-Hallum.
Your line is open.
Eric Stine
Hello, hi Jill. I’m just going to start with D&S and just dig into China a little bit.
The last few quarters you’ve seen some positive trends, you’ve been more cautious, but I mean – with now two pretty strong quarters in a row, I mean, do you feel like it’s enough to call the recovery there sustainable and potentially, you see some acceleration, given the order you just talked about the framework order in October? Or is it still something you’re still little – you’re cautiously optimistic on?
Bill Johnson
I would say, we’re still cautiously optimistic. We’re working really hard on the cost side of things to get into our single facility over there.
We’ll have that done by the end of the year. There is – China is experiencing growth in heavy-duty trucking and then all the fueling stations, and we’re participating in some of that work, which is kind of driving the numbers that you’ve seen in the last couple of quarters.
So – yes, I would say, cautiously optimistic.
Eric Stine
Given that, that market has been – I mean, it’s been pretty tough over the last couple of years. I mean, has there been any change to the competitive environment?
Is it – any competitors that have gone away because of what’s gone on there over the last couple of years? Or I mean, do you still view it as very competitive?
You can comment a little bit of a premium, but it’s still quite competitive for you.
Bill Johnson
Yes, I would say, that’s exactly right. There’s still a lot of competitors in the market, still very competitive.
We – Chart is recognized as a technology leader. So we do get a bit of a premium.
But it’s not a huge premium. But – yes, still a lot of competition.
Eric Stine
Okay. And then just on the margin side, I mean, a strong D&S margin, but China – China seems starting to pick up.
I mean, how should we think about margins? I mean, China a little bit lower-margin business, but yet you’ll have consolidation done end of the year.
So maybe some color on your thoughts for D&S margins going forward.
Jill Evanko
Yes, we expect D&S margins going forward to be at the same levels of our Q3 reported D&S gross margin.
Eric Stine
Okay. And then just last one from me, and this has been a question over the last couple of quarters.
But consolidation last year or as of late, in the industrial gas segment and – you kind of thought that it was still a little early to tell if that was going to have any impact on that business for you. And where do you stand on that right now?
Bill Johnson
Yes, I – my answer hasn’t changed. We haven’t seen a lot of change to our incoming order rates based on the consolidation
Eric Stine
Okay thanks.
Operator
Thank you. Our next question is from Martin Malloy of Johnson Rice.
Your line is open.
Martin Malloy
Good morning
Bill Johnson
Good morning
Martin Malloy
Just want to maybe – if I could, just go over with you some of the key changes to EBITDAs when we look from 2017 to 2018 that we should be thinking about. You mentioned the impact of the restructuring, the lack of expenses that we will have in 2018 and then also the benefits from that.
I think you said $29 million.
Jill Evanko
Correct. That’s a swing from 2017 to 2018.
Martin Malloy
Okay. And then maybe about $30 million EBITDA contribution from Hudson year-over-year?
Jill Evanko
Little more than that.
Martin Malloy
Okay. And then whatever we come up with as far as the organic growth in the business on top of that?
Jill Evanko
Correct.
Martin Malloy
Okay. Anything else that we should be thinking about there as far as 2018 or 2017 growth?
Jill Evanko
No. Those are the main 3 categories, and I guess, only thing I would add there is with respect to the organic growth, we do expect each of the 3 segments to grow organically 2017 to 2018.
Martin Malloy
Okay. Okay, great.
And then on the LNG bunkering facilities. Can you maybe give us an idea in terms of what’s the scope that you’d normally sell into some of those facilities?
Bill Johnson
Yes, it varies. I mean, in some cases, we do a lot of the engineering work.
In some cases, we supply just product to it. The bulk of the product is tanks, and as I said, kind of that 500 to 1,000 cubic tank with vacuum-insulated piping that goes along with it and then regasification if needed to – if needed on site, depending on what the use for the gas is.
Martin Malloy
Okay. So are these typically kind of a $1 million to $2 million revenue item or?
Bill Johnson
It can range anywhere from $5 million to $30 million, just depends on how big the terminal is and how much content we have and whether we have an engineering work or not.
Martin Malloy
Okay, great thank you.
Operator
Thank you. Our next question is from Ole Slorer of Morgan Stanley.
Your line is open.
Ole Slorer
Thank you very much. I was just going to return to the LNG segment again and the gas segment on FIDs.
How – in terms of the business that you are working on winning at the moment, how U.S.-centric is that in terms of FID solving on smaller modular projects from few other people you mentioned and orders have been already in the pipeline, relative to kind of mid-scale floating LNG projects that are kind of cropping up in West Africa. It’s difficult for us to kind of get a real handle on the timing of any of this.
So any help there would be useful.
Bill Johnson
Yes. So I would say, we – there’s certainly the projects that everybody knows about the Cheniere, Magnolia and then Tellurian and Driftwood projects in the U.S.
are all using some form of mid-scale modular technology. And then, there – the Delfin FLNG projects would use Black & Veatch, I think, is probably the technology that’s there, and they would use our cold boxes and brazed aluminum heat exchangers for that particular project.
But then you have Venture Global and that would be cold boxes and heat exchangers for us as well in content. So I would say lot of U.S.-centric stuff going on, but we also are involved in the floating stuff, Ole.
Ole Slorer
Yes, and what you view as most real in terms of getting across the final line on FID? There are, clearly, lot of projects.
Do you – you favor the U.S.? Or is it – do you think that there is an equal and real opportunity in the stuff that’s going on with Kosmos, BP and everything else in West Africa?
Have you read about – or are you seeing those projects are – are you most excited about being able to get across the – that the goal line?
Bill Johnson
Yes, I would say for us, the U.S.-centric ones are I’m probably the most excited about. I’m not saying that the other ones aren’t viable and don’t have a reasonable opportunity to get through across the goal line.
But I would say, somebody like Cheniere has a fairly high probability just because of its existing site.
Ole Slorer
Yes. I know when you started out, Bill, you highlighted the aftermarket as an uncapped opportunity at Chart.
I wonder whether you can update us on what you’ve done to capture that opportunity since you’ve started – since you took over as CEO?
Bill Johnson
Yes. So we – one of the things is with the Hudson acquisition, this whole fan business, about 60% of the fan business is aftermarket.
So we’re really excited about that and bringing that on. We also, as you know, did the Hetsco acquisition in January of this year, which was service component – service organization working on brazed aluminum heat exchangers and working in the energy field.
So that was kind of a $20 million, $25 million kind of revenue company. And so we’ve been – we brought that into our Lifecycle business.
So our total Lifecycle business now is about – what?
Jill Evanko
$50 million to $60 million of legacy Lifecycle plus the Hudson.
Bill Johnson
Yes. So $50 million to $60 million of legacy of the Lifecycle business plus the Hudson business.
So we now have, I think, a pretty good base to build on. We’re really interested in – and the VCT Vogel acquisition also, Ole, was a D&S service business.
We’re interested in continuing to expand that in all geographies around the world to – for servicing and repair of tanks.
Ole Slorer
And just finally, I mean, we’ve all been very excited for a long time about the opportunity to display these with China with LNG as a fuel for local transportation and also trucking, et cetera. But it proved to be very difficult to make money there.
So now you – but – yes, the Maritime opportunity in light of the fuel regulations coming in next year or the trucking opportunity in Europe, could you sort of rank them a little bit relative to what’s going on in China? As well for that matter, in terms of what you see as there the best – not only the best revenue opportunity but the best opportunity increment – to actually put incremental dollars on the bottom line?
Bill Johnson
Yes. I mean, 2 very different questions, probably.
The – if you look at China, about 6% of all the trucks are LNG trucks. And they have – I think, in the first 7 months of this year, they added 39,000 LNG heavy-duty trucks, which is pretty substantial increase in the trucking volume.
And I think, we’re going to continue to see that trend in China, because of – and particularly in the north where they have a lot of pollution and where they’re wanting to mitigate that. And I think there’ll be – once the capacity gets absorbed that was put in the last upcycle, you’ll see more liquefiers going into China.
Again, I think the pricing is difficult and it’s more of a challenge. But for sure, there’ll be a lot more LNG used in China and more capacity will have to be added sometime in the future.
When it comes to the bunkering side of the things, I think the thing that we have to be cautious about there is that, even though there is regulations in 2020, there is a couple of ways to solve the problem. One is through LNG ships and the other one is through using low-sulfur diesel.
So the real question on my mind is how they’re – how are they going to enforce the regulations. And if they really enforce the regulations, I think, you’ll see a faster move to LNG.
If they’re kind of slow on the enforcement side, I think you’ll see some of these shipping fleets continue to use low-sulfur diesel, and they can still meet the standards by doing that. But if oil prices go up and the low-sulfur diesel prices will go up with that, of course, then that will make LNG that much more attractive.
And so I think what you’re seeing in Europe is they’re putting in more bunkering, more stations in anticipation of this, and we’re also seeing it in other parts of the world. So – and those types of projects tend to be a lot more profitable for us than anything in China would be.
So from a margin standpoint, those are good. I think there’s going to be a lot of volume in China, we’ll have to work hard to try to make our dollars there.
Ole Slorer
And thank you very much for that. Thanks.
Operator
Our next question is from Pavel Molchanov of Raymond James. Your line is open.
Pavel Molchanov
You’re, obviously, sounding pretty optimistic on China. But I guess to be a little more concrete about it, are you seeing any opportunity to perhaps revive those long- forgotten PetroChina contracts that have been on ice for the last 3, 4 years as far as LNG fueling stations?
Bill Johnson
Yes. I would say, we’re not seeing it.
We – I would temper – I would comment on your remarks that we’re optimistic. I would say, we’re cautiously optimistic.
Pavel Molchanov
Okay. Fair enough.
And then on BioMed, kind of a political question for you, apologize for that. We have, obviously, seen health care reform throughout the last 6 months in terms of headlines out of Washington.
Has that had any impact on – whether it’s Medicare purchasing or just general industry sourcing trends given the policy uncertainty about insurance subsidies and reimbursements, et cetera, et cetera?
Bill Johnson
There’s been no substantive change in the reimbursement rates, so I don’t think we’re seeing a change in the buying behaviors of the consumers. There’s two channels for that.
There’s the DME, the durable medical equipment, people, and then there’s the direct-to-consumer channel. And I think both those channels have customers and reasons why people go to those channels and they still exist.
And that can change if the Medicare reimbursement rates change, but we haven’t seen anything.
Pavel Molchanov
Appreciate it.
Bill Johnson
No thanks.
Operator
Thank you, our next question is from Jeff Osborne of Cowen and Company, your line is open.
Jeff Osborne
Hey, good morning. I just had two quick ones.
As the market moves from single-chain solutions to the small and mid-scale, how do we think about the margin potential if any of these opportunities were to manifest themselves? I know several years ago, the prior management team talked about excess capacity of welding out there and – with that from your competitors as well as yourselves and margins would be tough if there was any meaningful orders.
But given the shift in technology scope, should we think that, that’s less relevant?
Bill Johnson
Yes, I would say so. I mean, for us, what’s different about this cycle than last cycle is the IPSMR technology.
We actually have a technology to sell. We spent 10 years getting patented.
And as we look at that and as people adopt that technology, there is a pure technology feed that gets associated with that, that improves the margins overall.
Jeff Osborne
That was my assumption, I just want to double-check. And then second one is just a quick accounting question.
So for next year with the $15 million now in savings, is there a way to couch that as to how much would flow through COGs versus OpEx?
Jill Evanko
Yes, it’s about 50-50 split between the two.
Jeff Osborne
Great. And then the – no change to the tax rate as far as you can tell at this point for 2018?
Jill Evanko
No substantial change. We’ll have a small benefit as we start to be profitable in China, which we anticipate to start in the first quarter of 2018.
So you would expect low 30s for 2018.
Jeff Osborne
Great. Thank you
Operator
Thank you. Our next question is from Matthew Trusz of Gabelli, your line is open.
Matthew Trusz
Good morning, and thank you for taking the question. So, Bill, you sized the $6 million contributions in the LNG engineering work in the quarter, how one-time in nature recurring is this?
Is this going to be an ongoing revenue stream opportunity from various projects and so you start seeing the FIDs?
Bill Johnson
Yes, I mean, as the natural flow of things is for there to be a FEED studies and those types of things, we get paid for that work. And then as the project progresses, it goes into the different stages of the EPC.
But – so we work with the EPCs, and we’ll work with the energy companies or whoever is trying to validate the technology, and we get fees, engineering fees for that. So it’s – It reoccurs as we go along.
And that is kind of – especially with IPSMR, that is something that will be reoccurring as we go forward.
Matthew Trusz
Great. And then turning to BioMed.
Can you just talk about the order strength and trends in portable concentrators? How do we assess your market position going into 2018?
Is there anything you can say to update on the DTC initiative?
Bill Johnson
We’ve launched the DTC, the direct-to-consumer, initiative. I would say, we’re very early in the stages of it.
And we’re learning as we process orders and as we get more exposure to the channel. But it’s a fairly small number right now.
But every day, we’re selling more units through the channel.
Matthew Trusz
Great. Thank you
Operator
Thank you, our next question is from Martin Malloy of Johnson Rice, your line is open.
Martin Malloy
I just want to follow up. On the – with the Hudson acquisition, is there any impact on the cash taxes that we should think about?
Jill Evanko
Very minimal impact, Marty.
Martin Malloy
Okay, thank you.
Operator
Thank you. And that concludes our question-and-answer session for today.
I’d like to turn the call back over to management for any further remarks.
Bill Johnson
Thank you Christie, our third quarter and year-to-date results across the three business segments reflect our reduced cost structure and support our full year outlook. Our reduced cost structure can support future growth, which is expected across all business segments, as we head into 2018.
We are pleased with the strategic additions of Hudson and VCT Vogel to the Chart business, and expect additional profitable growth and EPS accretion from both in 2018. Our actions year-to-date support our strategic vision for profitable growth over the coming years.
In addition to properly sizing our cost structure, we will continue to focus our efforts on organic and inorganic growth in key verticals, inclusive of continuing to build our aftermarket in E&C and D&S as well as offering complete solutions in our targeted industrial markets. Thank you, everyone, for listening today, and goodbye.
Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today’s conference. This does conclude today’s program, and you may now disconnect.
Everyone have a great day.