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Q4 2012 · Earnings Call Transcript

Nov 30, 2012

Operator

Hello, everyone, and welcome to the Johnson Outdoors Fourth Quarter 2012 Earnings Conference Call. Today's call will be led by Helen Johnson-Leipold, Johnson Outdoors' Chairman and Chief Executive Officer.

Also on the call is David Johnson, Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. [Operator Instructions] This call is being recorded.

Your participation implies consent to our recording this call. If you do not agree to these terms, simply drop off the line.

Operator

I would now like to turn the call over to Cynthia Georgeson from Johnson Outdoors. Please go ahead, Ms.

Georgeson.

Cynthia Georgeson

Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for our discussion of Johnson Outdoors' results for the 2012 fiscal fourth quarter and full year.

Cynthia Georgeson

If you need a copy of our news release issued this morning, it's available on the Johnson Outdoors website at www.johnsonoutdoors.com, under Investor Relations.

Cynthia Georgeson

Before I turn the call over to Helen, I need to remind you that this conference call may contain forward-looking statements. These statements are made on the basis of our views and assumptions at this time and are not guarantees of future performance.

Actual events may differ materially from these statements due to a number of factors, many of which are beyond Johnson Outdoors' control. These risks and uncertainties include those listed in our media release from today and our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

If you have additional questions following the call, please contact either Dave Johnson or me.

Cynthia Georgeson

It's now my pleasure to turn the call over to Helen Johnson-Leipold, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer.

Helen Johnson-Leipold

Good morning. I'll start off with comments on our results in the marketplace and discuss the focus of our next 3-year plan, Dave will cover some key financials, then we'll take your questions.

Helen Johnson-Leipold

Our 3-year plan ending fiscal 2012 focused on strengthening operations and enhancing marketplace performance against the backdrop of a gradual recovery of outdoor recreation markets. We set the bar high and delivered, growing profits faster than sales and exceeding a 5% target of compound annual growth in sales over the 3-year period.

Performance over this period outpaced competition in our market.

Helen Johnson-Leipold

In 2012, total company revenue for the full year was up slightly to $412 million due to strength in U.S. markets, which more than offset continuing economic issues in Europe.

Innovation was key with new products generating nearly half of sales this year.

Helen Johnson-Leipold

Fishing, camping and paddling brands did exceptionally well among our largest retail customers this year. At retail in these accounts, Marine Electronics brand grew 19%, and Outdoor Gear and Watercraft brands also experienced double-digit growth.

Helen Johnson-Leipold

Although point-of-sale data is not readily available for Diving, at wholesale, Diving shipments were 3% ahead of last year, excluding the negative impact of currency translation.

Helen Johnson-Leipold

Fiscal 2012 operating profit increased 21% to $21.4 million due to improved sales and efficiencies and net positive impact of one-time items.

Helen Johnson-Leipold

So despite the growth in operating profits, fiscal 2012 net income of $10.1 million or $1.03 per diluted share compared favorably -- I'm sorry, compared unfavorably to the prior year due to accounting for taxes in both years. Dave will discuss this in his remarks a little later.

Helen Johnson-Leipold

Moving on to the fourth quarter performance where results historically reflect the seasonal slowdown of the warm weather outdoor recreational industry. This quarter, sales dipped below last year due to a shift in the pacing of shipments to Marine Electronics customers, which will be reflected in the next quarter.

And operating loss this quarter compared favorably to last year at 25% improvement year-over-year.

Helen Johnson-Leipold

Over the past 3 years, we've made significant progress toward our long-term goal of sustained profitable growth and our commitment to enhanced shareholder value. We feel good about where we are and excited by the potential for future growth in every business.

Helen Johnson-Leipold

Looking ahead to 2015, our plans embrace our mission to exceed the ever-growing expectations of outdoor enthusiasts and to channel customers that serve them. We will do this with the most innovative, most valued and most-sought after brands and equipment.

Helen Johnson-Leipold

Reaching and winning outdoor enthusiasts is essential. They are the heart and soul of this industry, representing about 40% of all outdoor recreation participants, with a disproportionately higher contribution to the industry's profitability.

Helen Johnson-Leipold

Outdoor enthusiasts are passionate about their specific recreational activity, participating regularly and often. They are early adopters, constantly seeking out the latest and greatest products and technology to make the experience better and more enjoyable.

Enthusiasts are not into fads. They appreciate meaningful price value and are willing to pay more for it.

However, outdoor enthusiasts don't all shop in the same place.

Helen Johnson-Leipold

For instance, retailers like Cabela's and Bass Pro are outlets of choice for serious angler enthusiasts; small independent dive dealers cultivate and cater to diving enthusiasts; and active outdoor enthusiasts, like campers and paddlers, prefer regional and local specialty shops.

Helen Johnson-Leipold

The breadth and depth of our distribution channels gives us an important competitive edge in reaching target enthusiasts. And our ability and success in delivering innovation and meaningful price value will be critical to continuing to win their loyalty now and in the future.

Helen Johnson-Leipold

Against that backdrop, we've identified key growth priorities in every business over the next 3 years. In Marine Electronics, where we are #1 with fishing enthusiasts, we need to protect and expand our leadership position.

Helen Johnson-Leipold

In Minn Kota, our focus will be on integrated technology, innovation for high-end motor, delivering enhanced price value options in entry-level motors and growth and expansion in adjacent categories.

Helen Johnson-Leipold

In Humminbird, new-to-the-world technology applications and platforms will provide the foundation for growth in the years ahead.

Helen Johnson-Leipold

In Diving, SCUBAPRO is the preferred premier brand for diving enthusiasts, and SUBGEAR continues to experience solid growth in the mid-priced segment. Our dual brand strategy has been successful in enabling us to gain share and build positive momentum for both brands.

We're going to move forward to the next level of growth with continued innovation in core life-support segments.

Helen Johnson-Leipold

In camping and paddling, we need to rebuild our presence in the specialty class of trade and re-establish ourselves as an important player in the channel. Our recent acquisition of Jetboil can help us do that, a premiere brand which brings excitement and new technology and added dimension to our portfolio.

Helen Johnson-Leipold

Jetboil was on our radar screen for a while. It's the leading brand of personal cooking systems, a category they created.

Jetboil cooking systems are lightweight, simple and easy to use and work faster and better than competitive products even in the toughest outdoor conditions.

Helen Johnson-Leipold

Naturally, Jetboil is the brand of choice for active outdoor enthusiasts and is well known, well respected and is strong in the specialty class of trade where enthusiasts shop.

Helen Johnson-Leipold

Over time, our camping and paddling brands will benefit from that, as well as Jetboil's international sales network. Likewise, we will leverage our well-established growing business in Canada and broader distribution in the U.S.

to expand and grow Jetboil.

Helen Johnson-Leipold

In summary, going forward, investments will focus on sustaining leadership in fishing electronics, maintaining positive momentum in core dive equipment segments, regaining leadership in specialty camping and paddle channels and maximizing opportunities to enhance the long-term profitability profile of every business.

Helen Johnson-Leipold

We are very excited by the future of Johnson Outdoors and confident in our ability to deliver sustained, profitable growth and enhanced value for our consumers, customers and shareholders long term.

Helen Johnson-Leipold

Now I'd like to turn things over to Dave to discuss key financial highlights.

David Johnson

Thanks, Helen. Good morning, everyone.

Over the past 3 years, we've worked hard to keep operating expenses in check. And for the third straight year, operating expense declined as a percentage of sales.

David Johnson

In 2012, there are a lot of moving parts. We benefited from legal and insurance settlements and lower legal expenses year-over-year.

On the flip side, there were higher bad debt costs related to Europe, plus restructuring costs, a $1.6 million of compensation expense, which was offset in the other income line.

David Johnson

The net result is that functional operating expenses are down in dollars, and sales-related expenses declined as a percentage of sales. Overall, this contributed to a net favorable impact on operating profit.

David Johnson

The other key driver behind the higher operating profit for the year was our success in maintaining a strong and consistent gross margin percentage on higher sales.

David Johnson

Now as we mentioned in today's earnings release, pretax net income was about $8 million or 63% above prior year. In addition to higher operating profit, pretax income benefited from a $1 million reduction in debt expense.

David Johnson

Disciplined working capital management played an important role, as average working capital as a percentage of sales declined from 30.8% last year to 28.5% in 2012. The decline in working capital reduced borrowing levels, which helped reduce debt to an all-time low and resulted in lower debt expense.

David Johnson

Other income improved by $3 million. As I mentioned before, about half of this was due to the accounting for deferred compensation expense, which is offset in operating expense.

The other half was due to favorable foreign exchange.

David Johnson

However, all the positives above the bottom line were not enough to offset the negative impact of taxes on earnings. Recall that at the end of last year, there was a reversal of our deferred U.S.

tax asset valuation allowance, a noncash accounting item, which had a significant positive impact on reported earnings. Fiscal 2011 adjusted net income of $10.7 million provides a more appropriate comparison for 2012.

David Johnson

Net income last year, both as reported and adjusted, set a record for Johnson Outdoors. This year, net income was hit by a significantly higher effective tax rate of 49.1%, which came as the result of losses outside of the U.S.

and jurisdictions where tax valuation allowances remain in effect. So no tax benefit is recorded.

David Johnson

Despite the negative impact of taxes, fiscal 2012 net income of $10.1 million is the second highest ever reported by Johnson Outdoors, even when compared to last year's record reported and adjusted net income.

David Johnson

Going forward, we're evaluating all opportunities to help bring down the tax rates to a more normalized level next year. The balance sheet is in great shape, and every business is contributing to a healthy cash flow.

We ended the year with cash net of debt totaling $50 million, a $20 million increase year-over-year. A solid cash position like this gives us the flexibility to pursue strategic opportunities and investments needed to strengthen and grow our businesses.

David Johnson

Now I'd like to turn the call back over to the operator for the Q&A session. Operator?

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from the line of James Fronda with Sidoti & Company.

James Fronda

I guess just -- do you guys have any visibility from big retailers? Are they showing you anything in terms of building up their inventories for 2013?

Or are they being cautious?

Helen Johnson-Leipold

I think everyone is being cautious. I think there's a little bit of uncertainty about how things are going to pan out.

So it's kind of day by day.

James Fronda

Okay. All right.

And David, in terms of the cost of goods sold, I guess, are you seeing anything going up inflation-wise?

David Johnson

No, not significantly. We haven't seen that, and we're not forecasting anything significantly in the short term.

James Fronda

Okay. And our budget for CapEx for fiscal '13?

David Johnson

It will be similar to what we're going to report for 2012, which I believe was around a $12 million number.

James Fronda

Yes, okay. And do you guys have any update with Asia?

I know you said a couple of quarters ago that, that was kind of helping offset what was going on in Europe. Is that still the case?

Helen Johnson-Leipold

Yes. Our Asian Diving business is doing well and actually faring okay given what's going on in Europe, but that is still the phenomenon that's going on.

Operator

And our next question in queue comes from Michael Schechter with Mentor Partners.

Michael Schechter

A couple of housekeeping questions. The -- explain to me where the -- you said there's a $1.6 million of comp expense in other?

Is that this year or last year?

David Johnson

Fiscal 2012.

Michael Schechter

And what is the...

David Johnson

And that's a variance versus prior year.

Michael Schechter

Oh, it's a variance.

David Johnson

Yes.

Michael Schechter

And it's in other income below the line?

David Johnson

Yes. It's an income item below the line -- expense item and operating expense.

Michael Schechter

Okay. And I know you called out what you think the acquisition will add for fiscal '13, but what was it doing when you bought it?

What was the revenue run rate? What's LPM revenue and LTM operating?

David Johnson

We're going to have some more details in the K, Michael. So -- and that should come out within the next week to 10 days.

If you can hold off on that, we'll put that in the K.

Michael Schechter

Okay. But these numbers are your estimates going forward for fiscal '13?

David Johnson

Yes, that's our expectation, what will happen to our fiscal '13.

Michael Schechter

Okay. And the nonrecurring, you called out some in the quarter, but -- or at least for the year, but there was $1.1 million in the first quarter, $1.2 million in the third quarter.

So I'm having a hard time getting it off the foot.

David Johnson

Well, we're calling out the legal settlement. That was about a $3.5 million gain that happened in the third quarter.

There is some flood variance. We got recovery from the flood in Binghamton.

That's about a $700,000 gain. So -- and there's other restructuring that's happened in the third and fourth quarter.

I don't have those exactly with me, but if I could send -- okay, they're not huge.

Michael Schechter

Okay. Okay, I was just trying to make it all.

And Helen, just looking at the company and the balance sheet, whether you take it as a point in time or a 4-quarter trailing average balance sheet, the balance sheet is net positive. It is, to some extent, an inefficient capital structure.

And given what's going on with tax rates, why should we pay a special dividend out? I mean, just in the last 48 hours, you look at Costco, Brown-Forman, Dillard's, Las Vegas Sands paying out $7, $4 or $5, $3 a share.

I mean, it would seem to make sense to me.

Helen Johnson-Leipold

We always are considering all options. But I have to tell you, we've got a very solid plan in place.

We still have some work to do in solidifying the 3 legs of our business. We're continuing to look at acquisitions.

The future economy is somewhat still uncertain. I would say that we all agree here that it's in our best interest to continue with the plan that we have in place.

And certainly at some point, we'll be in the situation where that could be the option we pick. But at this point, we've got the right plan and the right direction.

Michael Schechter

Yes. But in 30 days, tax rates are going up, irrespective.

And we just spent $16 million in what's close to 11x operating on a forward basis, right, which I assume includes a lot of the synergies and saves from doing this deal. And it's probably obviously going to be larger multiples when you look at it on a trailing basis, and our stocks are not trading anywhere near those levels.

Helen Johnson-Leipold

Well, that was a very, very strategic acquisition and it really complemented what we're trying to do in that area, so it was highly valued from that perspective. And we are just building for the long term, and we have a plan in place.

And reacting on a short-term basis is not what we do. It's -- if we could lay out the plan for you and show you where we're going, I think you would positively agree with our decision on this.

Michael Schechter

The acquisition, maybe, but we're still -- for a company with $400-plus million of sales and north of $30 million of EBITDA to have a cap structure the way it is doesn't seem appropriate. And the use of capital for acquisitions versus purchasing your own stock versus a special dividend, it's an important discussion, long term and short term.

And it just seems that we have the capacity to payout $2 a share without really hurting the balance sheet at all, given the cash flows of the company and everything else.

Helen Johnson-Leipold

Point well taken. I mean, just so you know, it is a topic of discussion on an ongoing basis.

Dave, do you want to add anything?

David Johnson

No. I was just -- I think this is a really good discussion to have and we have that at the board level.

So...

Michael Schechter

You got 30 days to do it. I mean...

David Johnson

Michael, we're not doing anything for the short term. I mean, that's now how we do things at the company.

Michael Schechter

I understand that. But if I go back -- and let's go long term.

I go back, your balance sheet at one point had $50 million on a 4-quarter average, right? Since we've got some seasonality inside the company.

It maxed out at about $50 million, and we've subsequently marched it downhill to where we're at a net $12 million on a trailing 4-quarter basis. And there's no leverage to the company.

And you have a tax rate that's substantially high so you could use the deduction off the interest. Debt is, to some extent, a disciplining piece of the capital structure.

And to come up planning long term to say we're going to pay dividends down the road at some point when you know the tax rate on dividends is going to go up and it could go up higher than cap gains, a special dividend now is a long-term planning mechanism. It's not a short-term reaction.

Helen Johnson-Leipold

You make a good point. We're considering all options, and I just want you to know that we have this discussion on an ongoing basis.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Brian Rafn with Morgan Dempsey Capital Management.

Brian Rafn

Give me a sense -- I think Helen talked a little bit about a 19% growth in Marine Electronics. You guys talked about I think in the -- I don't have the press release in front of me because I'm traveling, but about 45% of sales were sourced from new products.

Could you say in the Marine Electronics area, with that grouping up 19%, would that new products be plus or minus that kind of corporate average of 45%?

Helen Johnson-Leipold

I would say that it's probably on the higher side.

Brian Rafn

Okay, okay, okay. And then there's been some consternation of this -- talking about Jetboil.

But one of the issues of paying multiples at one point, if you can organically take a business like Jetboil, put it in your distribution channel and double or triple or add an organic value to it, that does have a disintermediating effect on the multiples you're paying at front end. What is your sense of how you can grow Jetboil within that entire Eureka camping section?

Is there some positives on that? Or how do you change the delta change in Jetboil's legacy organic growth?

Helen Johnson-Leipold

Well, we have -- both sides have some positive opportunities. And certainly, our business can benefit from their depth and penetration in the specialty channel, which we are strategically focused on for our camping business.

And then on the other side of that, we also have a very good foothold in Canada, which Jetboil does not have. So we can bring that to them, as well as we have the larger chain in specialty outdoor in the hunt sage [ph] class of trade.

And then, as well, they've got an international distribution network that we can benefit from. So there is -- we go -- we have both ways to benefit from this in a distribution standpoint.

Brian Rafn

Would you say, Helen, that Jetboil stands a greater chance of increasing its internal growth rate in top line sales under the Johnson Outdoor umbrella than as a standalone?

Helen Johnson-Leipold

Yes, we would definitely agree with that.

Brian Rafn

Okay, okay. The question on for you guys, you talked about outdoor enthusiasts.

So we've been a shareholder of Sturm, Ruger firearms for about 20 years. Are you seeing in any of the larger, big-box category superstores like Cabela's, are you seeing any crowding out of them looking at -- they talk in their conference calls and our discussions with them about how they are placing a lot of inventory dollars into firearms and guns.

Do you see that crowding out at all, other areas of outdoor enthusiasts, be it camping or paddling or some of the other areas, hiking?

Helen Johnson-Leipold

No, we don't see that. No, not in that kind of dynamic.

No.

Brian Rafn

Okay, all right. Let me ask from the standpoint -- if you look at your internal allocation, maybe a question for you, Dave, relative to free cash flow, would it be a fair statement to say that from a long-term strategic standpoint that capital expenditures and M&A activity would take a priority over the cash dividend?

Or special dividends or...

David Johnson

Well, it's hard to answer that question. I mean, capital spending is kind of a necessary to keep the business running, so maybe.

But it's just hard to say that. We look at each acquisition on an individual basis.

Brian Rafn

Okay. What -- any sense of priority going forward on your military sales on the camping site?

Helen Johnson-Leipold

I'm not sure what you mean by priority. But military, we feel is going to be at a level of $10 million annually.

And that's kind of where we've kept it in our planning process.

Brian Rafn

Okay. So you don't have any discussions with, as troops rotate back home, restocking?

You haven't heard anything or any anecdotally?

Helen Johnson-Leipold

Well, that is always a fuzzy conversation and hard to determine from what they say and what's really going to happen.

Brian Rafn

Okay, okay. Fair enough.

Given some of that consternation, you guys talked a little bit that everyone's looking with kind of a jaded eye or so at 2013 and all of the government regulation nets. Are you seeing any elasticity from the standpoint of very, very high dollar amount?

Maybe you could sell a lot of fishing lures or let's say, fishing reels or something. And I think that, that might be a couple of hundred dollars or maybe a diving mask versus an entire scuba suit.

Are you seeing any elasticity or resistance in the very, very high dollar end, say, maybe your high-end Marine Electronics? Are you seeing anybody -- from the standpoint of your SKUs, are seeing lower-priced SKUs maybe being stronger versus higher or is there really no difference?

Helen Johnson-Leipold

With our true enthusiasts, they are pretty dedicated to getting the right equipment and the high-quality equipment, and that segment doesn't seem to be reactive. So that part is very good for us, certainly in the Marine Electronics area and the Diving area.

Brian Rafn

Okay, okay. In the Diving area, you guys talked, I think you said wholesale level shipments were up like 3% globally.

How much -- is the Diving segment, with you guys with SCUBAPRO and the 2 lines, is that primarily just a personal recreational dive or is there any industrial diving, military? Is there anything embedded in that?

Helen Johnson-Leipold

Well, that's our total dollar value. We do sales to the military.

But more that they're buying out of our line, we don't make special products for them. And we are not -- we do not specifically make products for commercial use.

But -- so what we've got is basically our core enthusiasts user base.

Brian Rafn

Okay, okay. And then I missed the opening.

Dave, you got a CapEx budget for next year?

David Johnson

So it should be similar to fiscal '12, which is about $12 million.

Brian Rafn

And how much of that would be maintenance?

David Johnson

Well, really, almost all of it is in terms of what you're thinking about maintenance. There's a lot of software capitalization in there for new products, but the rest is maintenance.

Brian Rafn

Okay. And then one -- maybe to Helen.

You talked that 45% we measured, we look for companies that have at least a 20% threshold in kind of trailing new product development. 45% is outstanding.

Is that a level that you think is a cadence that you're going to maintain? Or was there some just kind of episodic events the last few years that created a level that high?

Helen Johnson-Leipold

Well, I think it depends -- I mean, it differs by product segment and business. But you always have a high level of new product and innovation in the electronics area, both in the Marine and Diving.

So it will vary depending on which business has the new product pushed. But I think our goal is to be at the 35-plus kind of percentage, so -- and we think that's very important.

Operator

And I'm not showing any further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the call back over to Ms.

Johnson-Leipold for closing remarks.

Helen Johnson-Leipold

Okay. Well, thank you for joining us today and hope all of you have a great holiday season.

We'll talk to you next year.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today's conference. This does conclude the program, and you may all disconnect.

Everyone, have a great day.

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