Feb 3, 2011
Executives
Ken Rizvi - Director of Finance Keith Jackson - President, Chief Executive Officer and Director Donald Colvin - Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Analysts
James Schneider - Goldman Sachs Chris Danely - JP Morgan Ross Seymore - Deutsche Bank Steve Smidgy - Raymond James John Barton - Cowen Craig Ellis - Caris & Company Sujeeva De Silva - ThinkEquity Parag Agarwal - UBS Craig Berger - FBR Capital Markets John Vinh - Collins Stewart Kevin Cassidy - Stifel Nicolaus Ramesh Misra - Brigantine Advisors Tristan Gerra - Robert Baird Patrick Wong - Wedbush Securities
Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to ON Semiconductor fourth quarter earnings call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise.
After the speakers’ remarks there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time simply press star then the number 1 on your telephone keypad.
If you would like to withdraw your question press the pound key. Thank you.
I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Ken Rizvi to begin.
Please go ahead sir.
Ken Rizvi
Thank you Nicole. Good morning and thank you for joining ON Semiconductor's fourth quarter and 2010 annual results conference call.
I'm joined today by Keith Jackson, our President and CEO, and Donald Colvin, our CFO. This call is being web cast on the investor relations section of our Web site at onsemi.com and a replay will be available for approximately 30 days following this conference call along with our earnings release for the fourth quarter and the year ended 2010.
The script for today's call is posted on our Web site and will be furnished via a Form 8-K filing. Our earnings release and this presentation include certain non-GAAP financial measures.
Reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable measures under GAAP are in our earnings release and posted on our Web site in the investor relations section. For the upcoming quarter, we will be attending the Goldman Sachs Technology and Internet Conference on February 15th and presenting at the Morgan Stanley Technology, Media and Telecom Conference on March 3rd.
During the course of this conference call we will make projections or other forward-looking statements regarding future events or the future financial performance of the company. The words believe, estimate, anticipate, intend, expect, plan or similar expressions are intended to identify forward-looking statements.
We wish to caution that such statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual events or results to differ materially. Important factors relating to our business including factors that could cause actual results to differ from our forward-looking statements are described in our Form 10-K, Form 10-Qs and other filings with the SEC.
The company assumes no obligation to update forward-looking statements to reflect actual results, change assumptions or other factors. Now let's hear from Donald Colvin, who will provide an overview of the fourth quarter and 2010 results.
Donald.
Donald Colvin
Thank you Ken and thanks to everyone joining us today. ON Semiconductor Corporation today announced that total revenues in the fourth quarter of 2010 were approximately $579 million, a decrease of approximately 4% from the third quarter of 2010.
During the fourth quarter of 2010 the company reported GAAP net income of $61 million or 14 cents per fully diluted share. The fourth quarter 2010 GAAP net income included net charges of 38.2 million or 9 cents per fully diluted share from special items, which are detailed in schedules included in our earnings press release.
GAAP gross margin in the fourth quarter was 41%. Non-GAAP gross margin in the fourth quarter was 41.2%.
Fourth quarter 2010 non-GAAP net income was 99.2 million or 22 cents per share on a fully diluted basis including stock based compensation expense. We exited the fourth quarter with cash, cash equivalents and restricted cash of approximately $765 million, an increase of approximately 203 million from the previous quarter.
We also exited the quarter with the lowest net debt position in the company’s history at approximately $123 million. At the end of the fourth quarter total days sales outstanding were approximately 46 days, down approximately two days compared with the third quarter of 2010.
ON Semiconductor’s internal inventory increased slightly from third quarter levels on a day basis to 96 days. Included in our total internal inventory is approximately $16 million of bridge inventory related to our announced closure of front end manufacturing lines.
Net of the bridge inventory our inventory days would have been approximately 92 days at the end of the fourth quarter. As expected, distribution inventories increased slightly to approximately 10 weeks exiting the fourth quarter.
Cash capital expenditures during the fourth quarter were approximately $43 million bringing 2010 capital expenditures to approximately $189 million. We currently anticipate total capital expenditures for 2011 of approximately $250 million.
Now I would like to turn it over to Keith Jackson for additional comments on the business environment.
Keith Jackson
Thanks Don. Now for an overview of our end markets.
During the fourth quarter of 2010 our end market splits were as follows. The computing end market represented approximately 23% of fourth quarter sales.
The automotive end market represented approximately 22% of fourth quarter sales. Industrial, military and aerospace end market represented approximately 19% of sales.
The consumer end market represented approximately 16% of sales. The communications end market, which includes wireless and networking, represented approximately 16% of sales and the medical end market represented approximately 4% of sales.
On a direct billing basis no individual ON Semiconductor product OEM customer represented more than 6% of fourth quarter sales. Our top five product OEM customers during the fourth quarter were Continental Automotive Systems, Delta, Ella, Motorola and Samsung.
On a geographic basis our contribution from sales in Asia represented approximately 62% of revenue. Our sales in the Americas represented approximately 21% of revenue and Europe represented approximately 17% of revenue during the quarter.
Looking across the channels, direct sales to OEMs represented approximately 45% of fourth quarter 2010 revenue. Sales through the distribution channel were approximately 45% of fourth quarter revenue and the EMS channel represented approximately 10% of revenue.
During the fourth quarter ON Semiconductor revenues broken out by our product groups were as follows. The standard products group represented approximately 34% of sales.
The automotive and power group represented approximately 23% of sales. The computing and (concentered) group represented approximately 23% of sales and the digital and mixed signal product group represented approximately 20% of sales.
We will publish our quarterly and yearly revenue, gross margin and operating margin breakout of these segments in our Form 10-K filings for the year ended December 31, 2010. Now I’d like to provide you with some details about the progress we have made.
Following the fourth quarter of 2010 we closed on the acquisition of Sanyo Semiconductor. The addition of Sanyo Semiconductor expands both our product portfolio and our global market reach into Japan.
The Sanyo Semiconductor portfolio also adds new capabilities to our offerings ranging from micro controllers and custom basics to integrated power modules and motor control devices for the consumer, automotive and industrial end markets. We began our initial dialogue with Sanyo Semiconductor approximately one year ago.
Since then we have finalized overall manufacturing, operational and cross selling strategies with their team and are in the execution phase of the integration which will take place over the next 18-24 months. Last week we also signed a definitive agreement to acquire the CMOS Image Sensor business unit from Cypress Semiconductor.
We expect this acquisition to solidify our position as a leading supplier of CMOS Image Sensor products. In particular, the two dimensional high speed CMOS image sensors acquired from Cypress should significantly strengthen and complement ON Semiconductor’s existing image sensor products for the industrial, medical, computing and military/aerospace markets.
We expect to complete this acquisition during the first quarter of 2011. Now I’d like to turn to our end market and product line results.
The automotive end market achieved record sales in the fourth quarter as well as record annual sales in 2010. Fourth quarter automotive end market sales were up approximately 11% while annual sales expanded approximately 48% from 2009.
In 2010 growth in the automotive market was fueled by overall unit growth as well as a continued proliferation of electronics into automobiles ranging from entry level to luxury models. This has driven strong demand for our power train, automotive body and safety solutions.
In the fourth quarter we also saw continued adoption of our ASIX for parking assistance and position sensors. In addition, during the quarter we received the Semiconductor Supplier of the Year Award from (unintelligible), the largest automotive electronics supplier in China.
We are starting to see the early benefits from the opening of our automotive solutions engineering center in China. Looking into the first quarter we believe we will continue to see strength from this end market.
Revenues in the industrial, military and aerospace end market grew sequentially in the fourth quarter by approximately 2% and annual sales grew by approximately 35% to record levels in 2010. During the year we saw growth from heavy industrial applications such as factory automation as well as circuit breaking and motor control devices.
As we enter 2011 we expect to see continued growth in applications such as smart metering, energy efficient building management products such as lighting control and HVAC and in-building networks such as security systems and fire protection systems. In the fourth quarter the communications end market, which includes both wireless and networking experienced revenue declines of approximately 4% when compared to the third quarter of 2010.
In the wireless segment revenue decreased as expected primarily due to lower overall unit sales during the quarter. We believe as we enter 2011 we are well positioned with multiple products for the next generation of smart phone applications.
In the fourth quarter we began shipping new power and thermal management products for the smart phone market as well as our first micro USB integrated circuits for this segment. We can now support up to $3.50 per smart phone with a full suite of products including our protection and filtering devices, audio amplifiers, LED drivers, DC/DC converters, USB switches, MOSFETs and medium scale subsystem IC integration devices.
In the networking segment quarterly revenues were down slightly compared to the third quarter of 2010. As we look into 2011 we expect to see increased penetration of our custom ASIX and an array of precision clock and timing products as well as the ongoing build out of networking infrastructure in China and India.
In the computing end market as expected, we saw fourth quarter revenues down sequentially by 11%. Annual revenues in 2010 however grew by approximately 28% to record levels driven by our continued proliferation of our products such as our energy efficient power management solutions, buck and boost converters, MOSFETs, audio amplifiers, protection devices, thermal products and standard products.
We can now support up to $2.50 per tablet, up to $8 per notebook and more than $10 of content for high end desktop computers with our full suite of products. While we experienced a sub-seasonal decline during the back half of 2010 for this segment, we are optimistic that the computer end market related inventory correction is behind us and we expect to see revenues stabilize in the first quarter of 2011.
Now I’d like to turn it back over to Donald for other comments and our other forward-looking guidance. Donald.
Donald Colvin
Thank you Keith. First quarter 2011 outlook - based upon booking trends, backlog levels and estimated tons levels, we anticipate that historical ON Semiconductor revenues, which exclude revenue from Sanyo Semiconductor will be approximately $570-590 million in the first quarter of 2011.
This revenue guidance is better than normal seasonality and is supported by the backlog entering the quarter. Backlog levels at the beginning of the first quarter represent over 90% of our anticipated first quarter revenues.
In addition, based on current trends we anticipate that backlog levels at the beginning of the second quarter of 2011 will be higher than those at the beginning of the first quarter. We expect that average selling prices for the first quarter will be down approximately 1-2% compared to the fourth quarter of 2010.
We expect total cash capital expenditures of approximately $70-80 million in the first quarter of 2011 of which approximately 10-20 million is related to carry forwards from 2010. For the first quarter of 2011 we expect GAAP and non-GAAP gross margin of approximately 40-41%.
We also expect total GAAP operating expenses of approximately $137-141 million. Our GAAP operating expenses include the amortization of intangibles, restructuring, asset impairments and other charges which total approximately $10 million.
We also expect total non-GAAP operating expenses of approximately $127-131 million. We anticipate GAAP net interest expense and other expenses will be approximately $19 million for the first quarter of 2011.
This includes non-cash interest expense of approximately $9 million. We anticipate our non-GAAP net interest expense and other expenses will be approximately $10 million.
GAAP taxes are expected to be approximately $4 million and cash taxes approximately $3 million. We also expect stock based compensation expense of approximately $11-13 million in the first quarter of which 3 million is expected to be in cost of goods sold and the remaining in operating expenses.
This expense is included in our non-GAAP financial measure. Our fully diluted share count is approximately 460 million shares based on the current stock price.
Further details on share count and EPS calculations are provided regularly in our quarterly and annual reports on Form 10-Q and Form 10-K. In addition to our normal guidance for historical ON Semiconductor, which includes the expected results from Sanyo Semiconductor, we anticipate that Sanyo Semiconductor will add approximately $260-285 million of incremental revenue to ON Semiconductor’s revenue guidance outlined before.
We currently anticipate that Sanyo Semiconductor business will generate GAAP operating losses in the first quarter due to among other things purchase accounting and acquisition related costs. We anticipate that the Sanyo Semiconductor business will generate non-GAAP operating profits in the range of 0-5% of Sanyo Semiconductor sales in the first quarter of 2011.
Given the recent close of the Sanyo Semiconductor transaction we are still finalizing the purchasing accounting associated with this transaction. We should be in a position to provide more details regarding the financials of Sanyo Semiconductor on our next call.
With that, I would like to start the Q&A session.
Ken Rizvi
Nicole, we would like to start the Q&A session.
Operator
Thank you. At this time I would like to remind everyone in order to ask a question please press star then the number 1 on your telephone keypad.
Callers are limited to one question and one follow up question. The first question is from Terence Whalen of Citi.
Mr. Whalen, your line is open to speak.
There is no response from that line. Our first question is from James Schneider of Goldman Sachs.
James Schneider
Good morning and thanks for taking my question. Beginning on the Sanyo business, how should we think about the revenue profile of that business as we have throughout the year?
Specifically is there any share loss that you would assume or business that’s lower margin that you might walk away from that might cause that revenue to depart from normal seasonality as we enter this year? Thanks.
Keith Jackson
We would expect normal seasonality. Over half their business is consumer, which means your first quarter should be the lowest quarter of the year and business should build from there kind of capping out flattish in the fourth quarter.
So very similar to that seasonality - we are not expecting to have any business walk aways in the first half. We’re working very closely with the customers.
We’re still looking at the portfolio, etcetera. So I would not expect to see any leakage due to decisions on the company’s part in the first half.
And based on discussions with customers I would not expect leakage based on relationships there.
James Schneider
Great. That’s helpful.
Thank you. And then a follow up on the organic automotive and power segment in Q4, it looks like that was down sequentially and most of your competitors have reported a little stronger revenue trends in that category.
Can you explain what may be going on there?
Keith Jackson
So the automotive portion was up over 11% and 48% on the year. That segment includes our MOSFET business and we quite frankly moved some of that capacity away from the MOSFET so that we could support our business in other sectors during the fourth quarter.
So all of the decline from the MOSFET side was offset by increases in the automotive part.
James Schneider
Got you. That was all indiscreet?
Keith Jackson
All indiscreet.
James Schneider
Thank you.
Operator
Your next question is from Chris Danely of JP Morgan.
Chris Danely
Thanks guys. I guess Keith can you just run us through your end market outlook for Q1 and for the rest of the year and also your sort of reasons why you expect some end markets to be better and some end markets to not be better?
Keith Jackson
So I’ll start with automotive. We were just talking automotive.
I expect that that will continue to grow throughout 2011. We are seeing very strong demand from our customer base and quite optimistic outlook for the year both in number of cars built compared to last year and in the content.
So we think that will probably be again our strongest growth story in the company. We’re also expecting to see computing pick back up.
As we talked about earlier, we were kind of sub-seasonal performance in the second half of last year but we do think both with content from ON Semiconductor and the business cycle this year that we should also see that growing as we go through Q1, Q2 and Q3. So we’re seeing a little better situation here in Q1 than normal seasonality and I would expect strengthening in the rest of the year.
For the industrial markets we see those are flattening out a bit. Not expecting significantly strong growth there but they should be up year on year but fairly steady.
In the wireless business we would expect to see growth due to smart phones but total phones not growing at a very brisk pace. So seeing some improvement as you go through the year.
Chris Danely
Great. And then for my follow up can you just run us through the margin profile for Sanyo as it stands right now in terms of gross and operating margins?
And then how do you expect the ON margin profile and the Sanyo margin profile to trend throughout this year?
Donald Colvin
Hi Chris. As far as the Sanyo margin, we closed the deal the first of January so prior to closing the deal we didn’t have access to lots of information, particularly those concerning prices.
So we’re just getting our arms around that and as you know from acquisitions you’ve got complexities like fair market value, step up of inventories and things. So that’s why we didn’t give the usual granularity we give in our guidance.
And so we’re pretty comfortable in the parameters we gave you on operating income excluding non-recurring costs. So that’s about the best we can do while we bring the (jake up) accounts of Sanyo into US GAAP and purchase accounting during the first quarter.
But I think it’s fair to say that as Keith mentioned in his script, we believe that these are good products and that over time should migrate to operating incomes in the teens level and gross margins in the plus 30-40% level. So that’s something that still looks to be very doable but we’ll be subject to the completion of the restructuring plans that we have advanced for Sanyo Semiconductor.
And as far as the core ON is concerned, I think as Keith mentioned, we are driving more volume and more content. So our manufacturing investments that we’ve made over the last few quarters will bring fruit throughout the year.
And we are encouraged by the backlog trends as I mentioned in the script for the second quarter. So I think you can expect to see gross margins improving from the first quarter level as we go into the stronger second and third quarters this year.
The exact amount of improvement I’m not really going to determine but we have given you some algorithms. Higher sales revenues certainly will generate higher gross margins as we go throughout the year.
Chris Danely
Great. Thanks.
Operator
The next question is from Ross Seymore of Deutsche Bank.
Ross Seymore
Good morning guys. Keith, can you just talk a little bit about lead times both internally and what you’re seeing from your competitors?
Have they finally kind of started to flatten out or are we still seeing some adjustments out there?
Keith Jackson
So each competitor is slightly different and each market is different. I think in the discreet domain lead times tend to be a little longer across the industry than they are in the integrated circuit part.
Overall we’re operating around 12 weeks for lead times right now, which is the lowest we’ve been in over a year. Don’t know that that will go down dramatically in the next couple of months but it should be easing its way back down to sub-10 as we go through Q1.
And I think that’s similar to where the average part of the industry is from a discreet basis. ICs tend to be a little shorter and we have seen in the marketplace something that is sub-10 already and that should be stable at least through the first quarter of the year.
Ross Seymore
And then on the inventory side of things, you talked about the channel building inventory in the fourth quarter. What do you expect the channel to do in the first quarter?
Are there different end markets that have some of the same sort of inventory issues that computing had? Or are they kind of all clean at this point?
Keith Jackson
We think we’ll exit the first quarter in relatively good shape. There is expected to be a build in revenues across the industry in the second quarter so I would expect some sight building of inventory in distribution across the markets.
But not significant but I think that’s just needed to support the Q2 revenue increases.
Ross Seymore
And is there any end market that kind of needs to take some medicine like computing did? Or is that something that was specific to that vertical?
Keith Jackson
We haven’t seen any other market that’s in that shape right now. In other words we think everything else is in relatively good shape.
Ross Seymore
Got you. Thank you.
Operator
Your next question is from Steve Smidgy of Raymond James.
Steve Smidgy
Thanks a lot and congratulations guys on getting the acquisition done. You guys got a lot done this year in getting to your best net debt position ever.
And on that net debt position I was hoping you guys could talk a little bit about what you guys will plan to do with the cash. Are you going to try to actually pay down some of that debt or are you okay with the debt position and you want to have cash available for other activities?
If you could just talk about that a little bit I’d appreciate it.
Donald Colvin
Sure. I think up until now especially going through 2008 was our plan to pay down debt and make debt less toxic.
We got rid of the bank facility, all the covenants and everything that went with it. But we’re now very comfortable.
Our debt is approaching zero but you’ll have to bear in mind that we did assume a sour note from Sanyo. So we will have more debt at the end of the first quarter.
But we believe that the Sanyo business should generate reasonable cash flows going forward. We will work carefully at how that business develops, what capital investment it requires and many investors have indicated to us that as an analog company many of our competitors are paying dividends and that’s something that we’re actively considering as a priority for the debt.
So a little bit premature to give any specifics on that because clearly an acquisition of the size of Sanyo, we have to get very comfortable what investment it requires there. We are confident that it will be reasonable and that with the cash balances we have we can start to consider the institution of a dividend that many similar companies in our domain already have.
I think also an acquisition of that size even though we did complement that with a small Censure division acquisition, you can assume that we’re not building up a big war chest to eminently strike out and buy other things. The Censure acquisition was a small one, complemented an existing activity that wasn’t really implicated in the Sanyo acquisition.
But in general most of the company is going to be tied up with Sanyo. So that will preclude any major actions in that domain this year.
Steve Smidgy
Okay. Thank you.
If you could comment a little bit on pricing, it seems like it’s been better than normal for quite a while and in your guidance it seems like it’s still better than normal but maybe not - it’s starting to get less good if you will but maybe I’m reading too much into what you said. So if you could comment on that and if I could just squeeze one last one in, it seems like you’re saying Sanyo is going to sort of generally be seasonal in line with about the same as the rest of ON and that makes sense to me.
It sounds like you’re not going to walk away from anything really at least in the near term. So should we just assume that Sanyo is going to have normal growth rates over the next few years as we might expect for the ON proper?
Or is there something else that could happen one way or another that might change that in a significant manner relative to what you might normally think?
Keith Jackson
Okay. Let me handle those separately.
You snuck it in but those are good questions.
Steve Smidgy
Sorry.
Keith Jackson
ASP wise the way I would characterize that Steve is over the past few quarters there have been very little turns activities available. The products were being consumed by OEMs and by customers that had plans and arrangements on pricing.
As we look in the first quarter I do think the industry’s freeing up a small amount of capacity and I would expect those turns to be under pressure on pricing rather than in an area of strength. But I do want to emphasize I think it’s a very small amount of business going that way.
And you can see that reflected in our forecast. So maybe a little less strong environment here in Q1.
We have not seen enough capacity on for it to tip over to being a strong buyers market at this stage. And so we’re expecting relatively muted cycle here in 2011.
As to the growth rates going forward, it is still early. We’re not going to commit to any growth rates at this stage.
What I will say is we have been very comfortable talking with the customers about the position that Sanyo Semiconductor has and we’re not seeing any significant leakage. And then on the growth side we’re seeing opportunities for cross selling of products, which we think are very, very exciting and most probably would offset any kind of weakness otherwise.
So we’re in general expecting to see growth although our experience tells us in the early part of an acquisition it’s probably not going to be substantial in the first part.
Donald Colvin
Just I would completely echo all this that Keith says there. So think of Sanyo as a maintenance stabilizing and margin improving exercise for the next two years on revenue that will seasonally improve from the first quarter.
But we wouldn’t expect to see big year over year increases there until we get it truly integrated within our manufacturing infrastructure and that’s going to be the best part of two years. As Keith said, our experience has shown that preservation, maintenance of revenue takes a year to two before you start to get growth.
So I don’t think it would be appropriate to suggest any basic organic growth for Sanyo. But certainly seasonally improving from the first quarter levels is totally achievable.
Steve Smidgy
Great. Thanks guys.
Operator
The next question is from John Barton of Cowen.
John Barton
Thanks. Keith, maybe you could elaborate on the cross selling potential and I understand balance kind of doesn’t happen over night.
But when you’re meeting with the Japanese customers, the historic Sanyo customers, how receptive do you believe they are to ON’s traditional product lines and support thereof?
Keith Jackson
I was actually quite excited. I have been there two different times now talking to the large customers and in both cases they were embracing the opportunity to expand the purchases through Sanyo.
ON and many of the other Western suppliers in Japan are handicapped by the support infrastructures that they expect in Japan on a service basis, etcetera. And so they do not tend to buy as much from foreign companies as they do the local companies.
This completely changes that perspective in Japan. They now know and love their local Sanyo sales team and service team and so they are looking forward to getting access to ON products through that network.
And so they have frankly opened up opportunities at each of the accounts I went to to see if they could buy more ON products in Japan. The other side of that equation is outside of Japan Sanyo had very little infrastructure and service particularly on the technical support side to proliferate their sales outside of Asia.
We have got that infrastructure at ON. They have got some very, very interesting products in motor control and power modules that we are anxiously preparing ourselves to expand outside of the Asian market.
So we think there are opportunities in both directions and again just from an expectation setting perspective, even with all the enthusiasm it will take the better part of a year to see any significant flows.
John Barton
So to elaborate on one of your earlier statements, you perceive Western suppliers’ lack of success in Japan primarily due to lack of a service base as opposed to a true cultural barrier? And you believe if you keep that service base intact you’ll be able to get under representation in there as a Western supplier so to speak?
Keith Jackson
Yeah. If you’d asked me that question in the ‘80s I would have told you that there was a cultural barrier.
Both the experience we’re having and the direct comments from the customers there now says that they are through the cultural barrier. They want to compete on a global basis and they know to do that they have got to expand their base.
And so I think it really is infrastructure. I mean they had round numbers, ten times the support infrastructure on a people basis that Western companies can afford to carry there with the revenue levels they had.
John Barton
Thank you.
Operator
The next question is from Craig Ellis of Caris & Company.
Craig Ellis
Thanks guys. Good morning.
Just wanted to follow up Keith on the automotive comments. Can you talk a little bit about where you’d expect to see the growth this year?
Is it fairly equal geographically or do you expect one of your geographies whether it be China, which you mentioned, or Europe or the US to outgrow the others?
Keith Jackson
So I would still expect Asia to outgrow on number of automobiles sold. So from a number of cars built and sold I would expect that to be strongest, the Americas to kind of come in second place and Europe to be trailing on number of cars built.
But if you look at what goes into the cars, we sell to the module makers and those geographically are actually much stronger in Europe than they are in Asia. So they actually buy their materials in Europe and then ship them over to Asia from there.
So on a sales from ON perspective I would expect to see some very strong performance in Europe probably second behind China. So it’s a little different geography on whether you’re talking about the in-car sales or where we actually deliver product.
Craig Ellis
Okay. That makes sense.
And then looking at the TC business, what happens with ON as we go to Sandy Bridge from a dollar content standpoint and a market share standpoint as you look at the notebook and desktop business?
Keith Jackson
So we’re expecting market share gains and we are expecting dollar content gains. Steve, do we have a specific number on that yet?
Yeah. Okay.
So I guess my statistician here is telling me that we’ll have to stick with $8 content now for notebooks as an overall number. I don’t actually have that transition number for you today.
Craig Ellis
Okay. Thanks guys.
Operator
Your next question is from Sujeeva De Silva of ThinkEquity.
Sujeeva De Silva
Good morning guys. Nice job on the quarter.
A couple of questions on the guidance. You’re one of the first companies to report after Intel talked about their product issues.
Is there any impact or any anecdotal insight from that or is it still too early?
Keith Jackson
Well, I think it’s early. There are a lot of dynamics going on there.
We anticipate that any outcome is likely to be positive for us in the short term. If they have to recall boards or rebuild boards, etcetera, etcetera, it generally means we have got to provide new parts.
They don’t typically unsodder things any longer in that marketplace. So it usually ends up being scrap and they have to rebuild.
So generally I would say it would be a positive sign for us.
Sujeeva De Silva
And any sign from that in the channel that products are intentionally being delayed or any impact on demand that you see?
Keith Jackson
It’s too early to tell on that. Again, our customers there have choices.
They can continue building the existing model platforms a little longer, they can choose to rebuild with the new fixed parts at the same quantities they originally planned. It’s way too early to call.
Sujeeva De Silva
One other question on guidance. On the (imaging sensor) business, what’s your expectation for the full year and is there any of that in the first quarter guidance?
Donald Colvin
Hi. The deal is not going to close until the end of the quarter.
So you can assume it’s included in there because we’re talking about a deminimous amount. And on an annualized basis we think the business is slightly north of $30 million annualized.
That’s the kind of revenue run rate that we would expect. So full quarter revenue - something in the $8 million range.
Sujeeva De Silva
So it’s not in the first quarter, Don, right?
Donald Colvin
No. The deal will not.
We don’t actually know when the deal closes. But it will be so minimum this quarter that you can just assume it’s included.
Sujeeva De Silva
Excellent. Thank you.
Operator
The next question is from Parag Agarwal of UBS.
Parag Agarwal
Hi guys. Thanks for taking my question.
The first question is about CapEx. It seems that your CapEx spending is accelerating in 2011.
Just wondering where that CapEx is going an dhow this will relate to the CapEx (to date) that is being acquired from Sanyo.
Donald Colvin
I think that the capital expenditures, we account for them on a cash basis. So we did actually put in place a lot of capital at the end of last year particularly meeting requirements of the automotive and computing areas.
So the cash outlays for these as we mentioned in our call, some of that was delayed, just the natural working capital management. So that’s about 20 million or so of this year’s numbers were carried forward from last year.
But I’d say it’s fair to say that we’re putting a reasonable amount into front ends to meet requirements in the automotive and computing markets and in the back end more assembly and test capacity. So I don’t have the exact split but I think you can assume you take off buildings and some infrastructure, it’s probably split equally between the front end and the back end.
But I mean that’s what happens when you have a strong demand from your customers and we tend to remain stretched. I’m sure our customers listening to the call will be satisfied to see that we hear them and we are putting in place the necessary capital to service them.
Parag Agarwal
Okay. Very good.
Secondly about the Sanyo operating margin guidance of 0-5% in Q1, it looks like you are tracking way ahead of your target of 10% in (first) quarter. So any update on that trend will be very helpful.
Donald Colvin
Sure. The initial deal when we announced it in July, we talked about six quarters out.
And then we worked with the seller to get support from the seller to get competitive costs, we call it manufacturing support but the seller will help us get competitive costs much sooner. And so we announced that restructured deal at the end of the fourth quarter of last year.
So essentially what you’re seeing now in our guidance is the benefits of the restructured deal where we will get more competitive manufacturing costs much sooner than the originally scheduled deal. So we’ve looked at the numbers many different ways but we feel this is a reasonable guidance bearing in mind the addition of the seller support to competitive manufacturing costs.
Parag Agarwal
Thank you very much.
Operator
Your next question is from Craig Berger of FBR Capital Markets.
Craig Berger
Hey guys. Thanks for taking my question.
I guess first on the gross margins this is kind of - well, you guys did towards the lower end of the range after last quarter’s hiccup. Is there anything going on?
What’s the gross margin pressure and/or is 41 just where the business does right now?
Donald Colvin
I think we’re in a wee bit of a transition phase. So the equation was the capital expenditures that we have been making and end of last year/beginning of this year are having an increase in depreciation expense.
And the extra revenues that this capital will generate are not really going to happen in the first quarter than were affecting the third quarter. As Keith mentioned we’ve got some content gain and we’ve got some volume gain as the markets recover so I think you would expect I think Chris Danely asked the question before on the gross margins - we would expect the gross margins to move upwards as our revenue strengthens in the seasonally stronger middle of the year.
We have always said that we believe our core business is a 45% gross margin. The business - that requires certain factory closures.
I think it’s fair to say that in the stretch wee time environment we have been more prudent about factory closures and moved away (crate). I think it’s also fair to say that we will not be accelerating them until we see very stable market conditions.
But you would expect our gross margin to move up in the direction of our corporate 45% model on our core business as our revenue gets stronger in the second and third quarters.
Craig Berger
Thank you. And just as part of that, what’s the fab utilization rate at Gresham?
Donald Colvin
I think Gresham fab is - all our fabs are approximately 90% capacity utilization. I didn’t look at what Gresham is instantly but I think it’s close to that.
Clearly we’re seeing all our fabs filled up and we are continuing to make more investment into not only our Gresham facility but our other 8-inch facility in Idaho, which also is running over 90%. That’s fab 10 in Idaho.
So we’re seeing very good utilizations in both our 8-inch facilities, Gresham and Idaho.
Craig Berger
Great. And then just one last one, Thompson first call mix has put out a model with Sanyo and you guys are being a little vague even on the pro forma impacts.
And so I’m just a little worried that everybody’s models are going to be all over the place. And so is there any Sanyo pro forma OpEx number you can give us for Q1 or the year?
And also kind of how do you think about CapEx for the year? Thank you.
Donald Colvin
I think we hesitated long and when we gave the guidance. And so the P&L geographies are difficult to determine because we just got a hold of the company on the first of January so that was only a few weeks ago and we’ve been working to map their accounting to US GAAP accounting.
And it’s fair to say that exercise is not complete. So it wouldn’t be appropriate for me with the accounting conventions that we have to obey to give guidance and details for things that I don’t have certainty of.
I would love to do it but I have to be honest. There are not many percipients of a US company buying a Japanese company of the size and sophistication of Sanyo and it’s going to take us more than a few weeks to get the level of details that are required to be comfortable in a P&L geography.
But you’re all clever people. We said in the past that we believe the gross margins of Sanyo should be in the 30-40% range.
But we’ve given you what we think operating income is so I know that someone as clever as yourself will come up with a pretty good guestimate of what the model should be.
Craig Berger
I’m going to use OpEx of 80 million.
Donald Colvin
And so as far as capital expenditures, again we’re still in a position of finalizing that. As Keith mentioned, there are some really excellent opportunities with their products particularly making marginal investments to increase share in some of their products because of the (start up capital).
I think the number we’re looking at now is something like $50 million for the year. But we haven’t finalized that yet.
That number has not been engaged but that’s the kind of rough number for capital for Sanyo that we’ve thought about.
Craig Berger
What about the overall company for capital expenditures?
Donald Colvin
I think we stated that the core ON will be something in the 250 million range.
Craig Berger
So 300 all in?
Donald Colvin
Maybe. But again, the 50 million or so for the Sanyo is not something we have nailed down yet.
We happen to make it anything like that. Once again, we had good contact as far as planning is concerned.
But I mean as far as access to the company prior to closure was limited. And so especially access to things like prices, the anti-competition, the pro-competition rules dictate you can’t jump the gun.
And so it’s only recently that we’re seeing what prices are and margins and being able to direct our capital expenditures to areas that will give a high return. So we should be able as I said in the script to give much more details on our next call.
Craig Berger
Thank you so much and congrats on the strong 2010.
Keith Jackson
Thanks.
Operator
Your next question is from John Vinh of Collins Stewart.
John Vinh
Hi. Thanks for taking my question.
Can you give us what the Sanyo Q4 revenues were and what the revenues for 2010 were?
Donald Colvin
Again, I don’t know what the disclosure requirements are but I think you can assume that the Q4 revenues were approximately in line with the guidance we gave for the first quarter. That’s an approximation.
Sorry, what was the second question?
John Vinh
Yeah. And then you talked about consumer being over 50% of the business.
Can you give us the vertical breakout for the other segments? And is there any sort of color you can talk about in terms of how those segments are trending at this point in time?
Keith Jackson
Okay. Let me give you the breakouts first there.
The automotive segment would be about 17%, industrial about 7%, computing, 12 and then communications about 14. They are again if you’re looking at totals, consumer being half the business is certainly going to offset the profile.
Their automotive like ours is quite strong. Industrial has been improving and computing reflected the same trends we saw at ON, which was basically sub-seasonal second half of last year.
And the same thing with wireless in the fourth quarter, looks very similar. So frankly, the trends we saw on a quarter basis last year looked very, very similar to the overall market.
John Vinh
Great. Thank you.
Operator
The next question is from Kevin Cassidy of Stifel Nicolaus.
Kevin Cassidy
Good morning. Thanks.
On the CMOS image sensor business any plans of taking that outside of the industrial/medical markets?
Keith Jackson
No. The technologies we just picked up fit those markets very well.
They complement our existing customer base there with the other sensor work that we do and we think there are some very substantial growth opportunities for us in that area. Trying to enter the mass markets we don’t think is appropriate for that specific set of technologies but we do think there are some very good growth opportunities and margin opportunities for us there.
Kevin Cassidy
Okay. And where will that product be manufactured?
Keith Jackson
We have not made any determination on future manufacturing homes. So right now we’re going to keep the manufacturing stable until we make those determinations at its current locations.
Donald Colvin
Just a little add on to that, one thing that kind of makes me happy when I look at some of these acquisitions is that we haven’t brought a lot of these products inside and we are using external suppliers especially for the front end. So one of the challenges for semiconductor companies is to keep the factories loaded and so it’s quite comforting for me to look at some of these acquisitions.
They make a lot of good financial sense by using external foundries and it gives us the option downstream to get better productivity and margin contribution by bringing them inside but yet as Keith said, we haven’t yet made that determination. But it’s an upside potential or protection that we have for the future.
Kevin Cassidy
Okay. So you have the process technology for the CMOS image sensors?
Keith Jackson
Yeah. We have the capabilities internally but they’re using a set of foundries today and we plan on continuing to do that until we have analyzed a little more fully the overall situation.
Kevin Cassidy
All right. Great.
Thank you.
Operator
The next question comes from Ramesh Misra of Brigantine Advisors.
Ramesh Misra
Hi. Good morning everyone.
My first question is in regards to the acquisition how much did it end up costing? How much was debt, how much was cash?
Donald Colvin
Just on that, when we closed the deal on the first of January we gave them approximately 130 million cash which we disclosed in the earnings release was restricted cash. But we got back from them something like 110 million cash on their balance sheet.
So the net cash out was approximately $20 million. And we have assumed a 7-year note of LIBOR plus 175% for just under $400 million from Sanyo Electric, the seller.
So that’s the basic main elements in your cash and assumption of debt, Ramesh.
Ramesh Misra
Okay. In regards to the fab consolidation can you just update us the plans over there Donald?
Donald Colvin
The basic manufacturing infrastructure in Japan has three fabs and an assembly and test facility. And we will be consolidating into one major fab and a reduced assembly and test facility.
That is the main drive of the manufacturing consolidation.
Ramesh Misra
I guess my question was more about rest of ON but I guess that was a little bonus. So the plans for shutting down your ON fabs right now?
Keith Jackson
This is Keith Jackson. We do intend on still closing our Phoenix wafer fab.
We have delayed that several times based on business conditions being extraordinarily strong. We have actually put that off yet another quarter because we’re going to be consolidating some of the Sanyo product into our consolidating Malaysia fab.
And so we want to make sure we’ve got ample spare capacity in that factory before we make any cutovers and of course ample coverage of inventory to make the transition smooth for our customers. So simply said, the Phoenix fab will close.
It’s going to be closed later than we expected due to strong business and the Sanyo acquisition. We don’t have any other announced ON factory closures for 2011.
Ramesh Misra
That was it Keith and Don. Thanks very much.
Operator
The next question is from Tristan Gerra of Robert Baird.
Tristan Gerra
Hi. Good morning.
Could you talk about the percentage capacity growth that you expect to put in place ex Sanyo for this year? And also once you consolidate the three fabs at Sanyo would you expect that remaining fab at Sanyo to be close to full capacity if you look at just current loading rates?
Keith Jackson
So on the Sanyo question we would expect to fill that one up to the 85% range to 90% range. So when the consolidations are complete we would indeed expect that to be operating fairly close to full.
We’re also using our Malaysia and Gresham factories for consolidating some of the Sanyo factories. Specific change on capacities for the overall company with CapEx, it’s going to be 15% plus.
I don’t have a detailed breakdown on that but it’ll be in that range from our exit velocity in Q4 of 2010.
Tristan Gerra
Great. And then last question, if you could remind us of the exposure you have to Malaysia and Philippines in terms of the (center) of your cast from a currency standpoint?
Keith Jackson
So the Philippines does most of our analog IC assembly and test. And so that’s the amount that’s done there is less than 1/3 of our assembly/test.
And then our Malaysian wafer fab will do most of the discreet products so again it’s from a wafer fab perspective less than 1/3 of the company’s wafers.
Tristan Gerra
Great. Thank you.
Operator
Our final question is from Patrick Wong of Wedbush Securities.
Patrick Wong
Thanks for getting me in. Just one question here - you guys have always done a great job on streamlining new businesses that you guys acquire.
Can you give us an update maybe in terms of when you think you can perhaps get to 10% operating margin for the Sanyo semi business? Or maybe another way to look at it is actually if that $30 million of pre-tax income?
Thanks so much.
Donald Colvin
I think that’s a question that was asked kind of a different way before. We said when we first announced the deal that we thought we could get to the 10% within six quarters.
As someone mentioned, we have hit the ground running faster because of the support from the seller. So will be less than six quarters but I mean you can extrapolate.
It wouldn’t be the first quarter but it will be less than six quarters. So divine somewhere in between.
Patrick Wong
Okay. So is it fair to think that it’s possible to hit that this year, in the second half of this year at some point?
Donald Colvin
Sure.
Patrick Wong
Yeah? Okay.
Great. Thanks so much.
Operator
Thank you. This concludes today’s Q&A session.
I would like to thank you for your participation and ask that you disconnect your lines at this time.
Donald Colvin
No more questions?