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Q3 2015 · Earnings Call Transcript

Oct 23, 2015

Executives

Jason Liberty - Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer Richard Fain - Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Adam Goldstein - President and Chief Operating Officer Michael Bayley - President and Chief Executive Officer of Royal Caribbean International Carol Cabezas - Vice President of Investor Relations

Analysts

Steve Wieczynski - Stifel Felicia Hendrix - Barclays Tim Conder - Wells Fargo Securities Joel Simkins - Credit Suisse Steven Kent - Goldman Sachs Kevin Minolta - JPMorgan James Hardiman - Wedbush Securities Robin Farley - UBS Jamie Katz - Morningstar Ian Rennardson - Jefferies

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to the Royal Caribbean Cruises Limited 2015 Third Quarter Earnings Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise.

After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Thank you.

I will now turn the call over to Jason Liberty, Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead, sir.

Jason Liberty

Good morning and thank you for joining us today for our third quarter earnings call. Joining me here in Miami are Richard Fain, our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; Adam Goldstein, President and Chief Operating Officer; Michael Bayley, President and CEO of Royal Caribbean International; and, Carol Cabezas, our new Vice President of Investor Relations.

During this call, we will be referring to a few slides which have been posted on our investor website, www.rclinvestor.com. Before we get started, I would like to refer you to our notice about forward-looking statements, which is on our first slide.

During this call, we will be making comments that are forward-looking. These statements do not guarantee future performance and do involve risks and uncertainties.

Examples are described in our SEC filings and other disclosures. Also, we will be discussing certain non-GAAP financial measures which are adjusted as defined, and a reconciliation of these items can be found on our website.

Richard will begin by providing an overview of the business. I will follow with a recap of our third quarter results, provide an update on the current booking environment and provide our early thoughts on 2016.

I will close with guidance for the full year and fourth quarter. We will then open the call for your questions.

Richard?

Richard Fain

Thank you, Jason, and good morning everybody. What Jason didn’t mention was that Laura Hodges is also in the room.

And most of you know Laura is the outgoing Head of Investor Relations and I think we should thank her for what she has done over this period and wish her well as she takes Royal Caribbean to new heights. I think Carol should also know that we are expecting the share price to move as much during her tenure as it has during Laura’s.

So no pressure, but we are looking for good things. Turning back to the substance here.

It’s only appropriate that I begin with talking about the Double-Double. As I assume you all know and I hope you will know that’s the name we gave to our program designed to achieve double-digit ROIC and the doubling of our 2014 earnings by 2017.

That program continues in earnest and our performance this year allows us to move into 2016 confidently on track to the Double-Double. In fact, it looks like we are hitting one interesting milestone this year which none of us paid any attention to before.

When we set out on this path, our focus was on 2017, but I was very pleased when somebody pointed out to me that our new forecast for 2015 means we will be exactly twice our 2013 profit at the end of this year. It’s exciting to see that we are about to double our profitability in just two years from $2.40 to $4.80.

I like a good omen, and this one suits me just fine. It’s remarkable to me that on each of our three key metrics we are now back to at a minimum our best guidance of the year.

On the yield front, we are back to the midpoint of our January guidance of approximately 3.5%. On the cost front, we’ve gone from up 1% or better to down zero to 1%.

And on the earnings front, we are $0.05 above the midpoint of our January guidance of $4.75. All this is further proof of our ability to manage our business on an annual basis despite the fluctuations between quarters as well as our commitment to delivering bottom line results for our shareholders.

This type of performance doesn’t come easy, especially in our highly complex business, and this year is no different. The languishing economies in Latin America, the MERS epidemic in Korea, typhoons and stock market volatility in China have all presented us with our share of headwinds, however, a strong North American consumer has provided us a solid base, momentum in the Caribbean is going strong and our new buildings continue to perform exceptionally well on every measure.

We have a lot to be excited about. Given that the economic struggles in Latin America are having a profound effect on the Pullmantur brand and that China is our fastest growing market, I’d like to spend a bit of time expanding on both of these topics.

First, it’s clear that our Latin American strategy for Pullmantur hit a brick wall when the economies of our key local markets all but collapsed. Brazil, which is our most important Latin America source market, has seen substantial economic turmoil as well as substantial political turmoil.

Just last quarter, the Brazilian Real dropped by 22% against the dollar. This type of precipitous decline dashed our hopes and plans for Pullmantur in Latin America and has triggered the non-cash impairment charge of almost $400 billion.

Taking such a large write down is always painful, and no one likes to ignore at something like this, but it’s also true that every cloud has a silver lining. In this case, the write down enables us to put this issue behind us and focus Pullmantur on a simpler and more attractive proposition catering to its Spanish base.

I believe that we can now move forward with a more positive attitude that enables a more positive outlook. Shifting to the other side of the globe, we have a lot to talk about with respect to China.

As you know, we’ve made a real effort over a number of years to establish our position and our reputation in the growing Chinese market. That effort has been very successful for us and we are particularly proud of the strong brand position we’ve achieved there.

It’s been a major learning experience and not an easy one. But fortunately the market has been very receptive to our product and to our message.

This has enabled us to accomplish two things, expand the size of our Chinese deployment and expand the seasonality of that deployment. We now have Quantum of the Seas doing China sailings year round, and while off peak sailings will still trade above the normal fleet average, they will not trade as high as the peak summer China sailings.

That is really no different than in any other market around the world. In addition, Legend of the Seas will have sailings home porting out of secondary cities like Tianjin and Qingdao, that have lower costs, but most likely not drive as high of APDs as Quantum does out of Shanghai or that Ovation will out of Tianjin.

These mix changes don’t alter the fact that China and the growth of the Asia Pacific region has and will continue to be yield accretive for the brand overall. Now as we look specifically into 2016, we are encouraged by what we see.

As previously noted, we have a higher percentage booked and at higher prices than ever before in our history. And we take delivery of two of the industry’s most acclaimed ships in the second quarter, Harmony of the Seas, which is the third Oasis Class Ship and Ovation of the Seas which is the third Quantum Class Ships.

All of this provides a very nice tailwind to earnings, especially for the back half of next year. I would emphasize that booking so much, so early, is not only an indication of the strength of the market, it also goes hand in hand with our price integrity policy.

As you know that policy is designed to give our guests and our travel partners more comfort that when they book a cruise with us, we won’t be dropping the price of that same cruise during the last few days before the ship sails. We believe that only clear, unambiguous guidelines work.

If we can’t measure it, we can’t properly implement it. In this case, it’s both the clarity and the absoluteness of our program that makes it so powerful for our customer and for our internal revenue managers.

Depending on the itinerary, we have internally banned any new discounts in the U.S. and the Canada in the last 10, 20, 30 or 40 days before the cruise starts.

The program has been in place for seven months or so, and we have not granted a single exception to the policy. I acknowledge it has cost us a bit and is costing us a bit this year in revenue, and some cabins have gone empty which could have been filled with dramatic last minute deals, but we stood firm and we have made zero exceptions.

We believe our guests and our travel partners are beginning to respond as we had hoped they would and we are sticking with the program. We still expect it will cost us a bit more in 2016, but the long run benefit in guest satisfaction, in travel agent support and in bottom line results will pay handsome dividends in the long run.

In fact, we feel sufficiently positive about the program that recently we extended it to the U.K. and Irish markets, so we are now applying the same policies about no new last minute discounts in Britain and Ireland that we have been applying in the U.S.

and Canada. Now lastly before I turn the mike back to Jason, I would just touch on our share repurchase program that we included in our release.

We’ve previously responded to questions about such a program by saying that it would be a reasonable consideration as we get into the time when we are more comfortable about free cash flow generation. It’s a gratifying sign of progress that our board has now approved such a program at this time.

With that, it’s my pleasure to turn it back to Jason. Jason?

Jason Liberty

Thank you, Richard. I will begin by taking you through our results for the third quarter.

Unless I state otherwise, all metrics are on a constant currency basis. We have summarized our third quarter results on slide two.

For the quarter, we generated adjusted net income of $2.84 per share which was $0.14 above our guidance. Third quarter net revenue yields were up 5.1% year-over-year which was approximately 130 basis points better than the midpoint of our previous guidance.

The out performance was driven by strong close-in pricing for the Caribbean and Europe as well as strong on-board revenue on our Asia itineraries. Yields were up year-over-year on all key products except for Latin America where we saw a weak demand at low price points.

On board revenues did not disappoint. We achieved 10% growth year-over-year driven by improvements in beverage, retail sales and demand for Boom, the fastest internet at sea.

Costs were better than expected for the quarter with net cruise cost excluding fuel down 1.8% versus guidance of down 1.5% to 1%. The $0.02 beat and cost is mainly due to timing.

Also in the third quarter we recorded non-cash impairment charge of $399 million associated with Pullmantur’s goodwill, trade mark and trade names and a reduction in the fair value of select vessels in the Pullmantur fleet. Given the further deterioration of the economies and currencies in Latin America, management has shifted strategy and will be rightsizing the Pullmantur brand to better align supply with demand and to refocus on their core market of Spain.

To that end, the Pullmantur Empress will transition back to the Royal Caribbean International fleet in early 2016 and after an extensive dry dock will begin sailing as the Empress of the Seas in the spring of 2016. As the Pullmantur management team works through their new strategy, we expect restructuring and related charges in the range of $5 million to $10 million that will be recorded in future quarters.

Also, we plan to eliminate Pullmantur’s two month lag in the first quarter of 2016. This change will result in a 14-month reporting period for Pullmantur next year and did not represent a material impact of full year earnings.

For simplification and comparative purposes, we will be excluding all these adjustments from our key statistics. Now I would like to update you on what we are seeing in the demand environment.

For the balance of 2015 and provide early insight into 2016. The fourth quarter is shaping up significantly better than last year from both an APD and load factor perspective and we are currently 95% booked for the quarter.

Our Caribbean sailings account for 47% of our Q4 capacity and are turning much more favourably than at this point last year. We expect the Caribbean to generate mid to high single digit yield improvements in Q4.

Asia Pacific itineraries account for 20% of fourth quarter capacity and for the first time we have a ship in China throughout the winter season. Quantum of the Seas has been generating superior yields as continuing to contribute to our overall yield growth in the region.

Industry capacity growth is slightly stressing our Australian Southeast Asia products this winter. While this has led us to take a more conservative view on yield expectations for this itineraries absolute yields are still higher unlike hardware in other markets.

Our guidance reflects the impact, the economic crisis Latin America is having on our locally sourced Brazil and Latin America sailings. Before providing visibility into booking transfer next year, I want to provide you with an overview of our deployment.

We are slightly increasing capacity in the Caribbean due mostly to hardware changes and shifts in season length. By the end of the year, we will have three Oasis class ships in the Caribbean, two in Fort Lauderdale and one in Port Canaveral, our newest ship Harmony of the Seas joins her sisters Oasis and Allure for the winter of 2016 and 2017 season.

The Caribbean will remain our biggest product with about 43% of total capacity. Before heading to the Caribbean, Harmony of the Seas will debut in the Mediterranean and spend her summer season sailing from Barcelona and Rome.

Overall, European itineraries will represent about 21% of our total capacity which is similar to this year. Our most significant increase will once again occur in the Asia Pacific region.

Capacity will be up more than 30% year-over-year due in part to the addition of Ovation of the Seas in Tianjin and the year round presence of Quantum of the Seas in Shanghai. Overall, China will represent 9% of total 2016 capacity versus 6% in 2015.

Structurally the main changes in our deployment from a quarterly perspective are, Quantum of the Seas has new China sailings throughout Q1, Splendour of the Seas leaves the fleet in April. Harmony and Ovation of the Seas joins us late in Q2 ultimately providing tailwinds to revenue in Q3 and Q4.

Mein Schiff 5 joins TUI Cruises in June. Dry docks are also shifting next year with more in Q2 and Q4 and fewer in Q1 and Q3.

Moving onto early booking transfer 2016, demand has been healthy thus far and the booking window has continued to expand. In fact, it has shifted out approximately 30 days over the last two years.

As a result, 2016 load factors are currently the highest in the company’s history and APDs are ahead versus the same time last year for the full year and in each individual quarter. The strength we are seeing in the Caribbean this year continues into 2016 and Caribbean sailings of all lengths are trending nicely ahead.

We are seeing solid early booking trends for both North America and key sourcing markets in Europe for 2016 European sailings. As expected, Harmony of the Seas is enjoying particularly strong demand.

Load factors are up year-over-year for our 2016 Asia Pacific itineraries, with Quantum of the Seas and all over China winter season and a good book position at high yields. Our order book for summer China sailings is shaping up nicely and the product is expected to contribute to the company’s overall yield growth for 2016.

Although it’s still too early in the booking window to comment more specifically on booking trends for the full year, we do have more visibility into the first quarter. Overall, Q1 is booked ahead on load factor and APD versus same time last year.

The Caribbean and China which makes up approximately two thirds of capacity are significantly more booked than last year at higher rates. The strength of these two products is more than offsetting continued pressure in Latin America.

While our key products are trending well in the first quarter, it’s still too early to provide specific guidance for the full year. However, our current record high load factors and strong pricing position 2016 is expected to be our seventh consecutive year of yield growth keeping us on track to our Double-Double targets.

If you turn to slide three, you will see our guidance for the full year 2015. Net revenue yields are expected to be up approximately 3.5% which gets up back to the midpoint of our January guidance and represents a slight increase from our July guidance.

This increase is due to our stronger revenue performance in the third quarter. The fact it was impacting our business have mostly remained consistent since our last earnings call.

Caribbean momentum continues, we are on track to have our highest yields in Europe in our company’s history and our onboard revenue and three cruises remain on a positive trajectory. These tailwinds are somewhat offsetting further weakness in Latin America and softer pricing in Australia and Southeast Asia due to significant increase in industry capacity.

Net cruise costs excluding fuel are expected to be back in line with the April guidance of flat to down 1%. Our fuel costs for the year have decreased since our July call to $800 million, driven mainly by rate and we are 57% hedged for the remainder of 2015 at a price of $608 per metric ton.

Based on current fuel prices, interest rates and currency exchange rates, our adjusted earnings per share guidance is expected to be approximately $4.80. These earnings represent a $0.05 improvement from the midpoint of our January guidance, despite a full year $0.25 headwind from a currency and fuel.

Before I walk you through our fourth quarter guidance, I would like to elaborate on capital returns. We continue to remain focused on improving returns for our shareholders which is one of our three core financial objectives.

Our commitment to this goal has exemplified our announcement this morning of our boards authorization of a $500 million share repurchase program. This includes a $200 million accelerated share repurchase which is expected to be completed by the end of January 2016.

Further evidence of our commitment to improving shareholder returns is our recent increase in the quarterly dividend to $0.375 a 25% increase year-over-year. These two actions reflect our commitment to improving shareholder returns and our confidence in the Double-Double.

Now I’d like to walk you through our fourth quarter guidance on slide four. Notwithstanding the impact of Latin America and some modest pressure on pricing in Australia and Southeast Asia, Q4 of 2015 will be the best performing fourth quarter in our company’s history.

Year-over-year tailwinds are coming from a combination of price improvements in the Caribbean, the addition of Quantum of the Seas in China and the Anthem of the Seas in the Northeast. Net yields are expected to be up in the range of 4.5% to 5%.

Net cruise costs excluding fuel are expected to be down approximately 4% and we have included 193 million of fuel expense for the quarter. Taking all this into account we expect adjusted earnings per share to be approximately $0.90 per share for the quarter.

With that, I will ask our operator, Lorrie to open up the call up for a question-and-answer session.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Steve Wieczynski of Stifel.

Steve Wieczynski

Hey, good morning, guys. So, I guess in the past you talk little bit about 2016 in terms of what you're seeing there, and I guess some times in the past around the third quarter earnings release you guys have essentially given somewhat soft guidance for the next year.

I know in 2015 you guys kind of called out that you felt comfortable with where consensus was for the next year. This year you guys did not do that.

I was wondering why the decision not to do that?

Richard Fain

Yes. Steve, I'll address that.

It's Richard. I guess that's an instance of no good deed goes unpunished.

We did do that last year and I think we actually did the opposed well. And the reason was most of those cases we were sort of – there were lot of uncertainties about some of the structural elements that we were trying to make sure everybody understood what that is.

But most people don't provide that kind of guidance and we don't really want to do so on a regular basis. And this year I think -- we think that the structural issues are clear.

We have comparable situation going forward. People understand the way the fleet works and the numbers work.

And so we didn't – and it's clear from the guidance that's out there – not the guidance, but the estimates that are out there that people understand the way these things are going. But we get our best information about the year when we go through the wave period and we really feel that it's more appropriate on an ongoing basis to be doing what the rest of our industry does and provide our guidance when we've had that early insight.

So I think I would suggest that last year or two have been anomalies, but this is and should the norm.

Steve Wieczynski

Okay. Got you.

And then, I guess as we look to 2016, your outlook there looks – it's pretty for most of markets you're operating in. But I guess the question is going to go to Pullmantur, even though it’s a very, very small percentage of your capacity.

I guess at this point you guys have had issues with this as brand. The Latin American market does seem to be unstable at this point.

And if you look at those five ships and the brand, I mean, the average ages, I mean, almost 25 years old. So I guess the question is at this point why not shut that down and essentially relocate those ships or essentially scrap up?

Richard Fain

Hey, Steve. I think that when we look Latin America as a key market as you brought up, I mean, there has been some real challenge there.

But when we look at the market of Spain and Pullmantur position in Spain, we do think that there is opportunity with those assets and with the positioning of the brand to do well. And that's why this is a combination of somewhat rightsizing, right, so we are taking Empress of the Seas as I noted in my remarks and moving her into the Royal Caribbean fleet.

And then, really kind of trying to match up appropriately supply and demand in the Spanish market and I think that we see those plans as paying off nice for us in the future.

Steve Wieczynski

Great. Thanks guys.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Felicia Hendrix with Barclays.

Felicia Hendrix

Hi. Thanks.

Good morning. So, Jason, exciting news regarding the share repurchase program and the ASR.

That just came out about a year earlier than I was expecting. So, I was just wondering if you could talk about the decision to do it now and any impact that might with the rating agencies regarding obtaining your investment grade rating?

Jason Liberty

Sure. it is a little bit early relative to when positive free cash flow generation comes in and as it evolve in modeling in our discussion most people see that towards the back half of next year.

I think what we talked about was that as we starting to get more comfortable about the forward looking picture and as Richard mentioned in his comment the forward looking free cash flow generation that management and the board would be considering when that share buyback would be. I think this is kind of more of a timing thing as it relates to the rating agencies as this is –you probably are little bit earlier, but not a lot earlier than our dialogues with them in terms of share buyback program.

So, I think the combination of you are confidence in future cash flows, while also trying to manage those three core financial objectives of improving shareholder returns being an investment grade credit and growing our business by maintaining that balances, this has kind of been our prospective for it.

Felicia Hendrix

And then you gave us some color on China. As you know we just did some analysis on this supply that's coming into the market over the next two years, and by account the market is going from about 10 ships today to 18 in 2017.

So, I just wondering in context of all the strength that you stuffed on your prepared remarks can you just share your thoughts on the impact of that supply in the market in general and particular 2017. And then also how Royal Caribbean expectations for pricing fall into that scenario?

Thanks.

Michael Bayley

Hi, Felicia, it's Michael. I'll answer that question.

I think as you point out there's more supply coming into market in 2016 and 2017. We obviously feel quite comfortable with the market opportunity.

We believe that it's literally untapped and as we see what's occurring in the Shanghai and Tianjin-Beijing region. We think that there's a lot of opportunity ahead of us.

For Royal Caribbean, I think we feel confident. We've now been I the market for eight years.

We've been building our brand for that period of time and we're being investing solidly in the market for that period, so, the aggregate marketing investments had been quite significant. We have good consumer confidence.

We're in a good position as a brand in the marketplace. In fact yesterday we just receive news that we were the recipients of the best cruise line in China for the eighth year running.

We have been working on expanding the distribution channels and building our trade relationships and over this period of time I think we've also been able to introduce more sophisticated promotional ideas with our various trade partners. So, our feelings are good about how we see China.

We think the opportunity is still very, very strong. So that's kind of our perspective on China.

Felicia Hendrix

And then to just reiterate something that Jason said about pricing in China. Did I hear that right that for 2016 so far what you see is it up year-over-year, Jason?

Jason Liberty

Just in terms of the visibility that we have into China and lot of that is going into the spring. We feel about load factor and the APDs we're getting there, and obviously Quantum will be there for the first time in the first quarter.

And as Michael mentioned, the reception to that product has been – and that asset has been fantastic.

Michael Bayley

Yes. Just to add, I mean, we not only have we being extremely please with the performance of Quantum, but we have Ovation coming into the market in June into Tianjin.

So with the two Quantum Class ships in China in 2016, we're feeling pretty good about how that looks?

Richard Fain

But you know Felicia, it also worth emphasizing that the – there's a structural change because we really now going into the market and doing it on the year round basis. And so you have to add in the mix that we have now have winter sailings.

Actually significant part of the increase and the capacity in China is not so much new ships, but it's actually just that we broadening when during the year that we're there. So, we're quite encouraged by it.

We're already there. The Quantum has done very well.

The Quantum has clearly – the Quantum Class is clearly distinguishing themselves as an outstanding vessel. But there's also a lot of uncertainty about China in everybody's mind.

And we feel good that we're going at in the right way. And I just want you to forget structural change.

Felicia Hendrix

Yes. Thanks for that.

Thanks a lot.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Tim Conder of Wells Fargo Securities.

Tim Conder

Thank you. And first of all congrats to everyone on continued great execution.

Couple of things, Richard, just to continue on to that and whether you or Michael or Jason want to take this, but regarding China, so it sounds like we may see a little bit more seasonality, obviously, and somewhat similar to what we see in North America, where we have a shoulder period in Q1 and Q4. Can you sort of talk about the cadence there of pricing, and obviously it would appear that you would get your highest yields in the summer.

So, that's question one related to China. Question two would be, Jason, you mentioned I think that the pricing as it stands right now is up on a very early basis looking for China for next year, but if you could maybe, if you can or if you want to, break it down into your existing markets and then as you expand here into some of these periphery markets, somewhat your top cities versus your new cities, if you could give any color from that perspective?

Michael Bayley

Hi, Tim, it's Michael. Yes.

I think as Richard point it out and as your question asks, there is seasonality and so the cadence is very similar to the kind of cadence that we see in other markets. There's a peak summer when the demand is high, particular around Golden Week, when the demand is extraordinary.

And then as we move into the more of the shoulder seasons than we typically have slightly softer pricing that we do in the peak, so that's very typical. And I think that we expect the behavior to be similar, although I think for us, it’s the fact that we're broadening the seasons.

It's also a new experience for us as well. So we're going to have to see how it really does play out.

We're fairly confident in terms of demand in the marketplace. So I think – but the seasonality is we believe quite similarly.

Tim Conder

Okay.

Jason Liberty

And then, Tim, in terms of your commentary on the market and secondary markets, I think in Richard's comment he talked about that these secondary markets have a lower cost base to them and do get slightly lower yields than what you would get in these primary large metropolitan areas like Shanghai and Beijing area. And so, I think again it's still very early on in that booking process, but that will play into the mix of yields for China, but again, we all thing that that contributes positively to the overall yield of the region, as well as it corporation the full year.

Michael Bayley

And Tim, I just add one more new ones. We talk about the complexity of our business, one of things you also are very well aware, I know you're well aware of, but it gives me an opportunity to mention it for everybody is the issues that it's not just China.

We really look at this pattern as in some cases it's year round China, but in some cases its summer in China and our winter Northern winter in Southeast Asia and then Australia and New Zealand and you were also commenting on what's happening particularly in Australian market, New Zealand market which have also had very large increases in capacity. So you have to balance all of those as we're going through.

Tim Conder

Okay. Understood.

That's helps. I guess just one more piece there on the China.

If you looked at your comparable cities in the comparable period, how is pricing trending at this point from that perspective?

Jason Liberty

Hi, Tim. On a comparable basis and again in terms of the visibility there we see.

And as I commented we – our load factors are on a good position year-over-year as well as our rate based on the level of visibility that we have which is really through the spring at this point.

Tim Conder

Okay. Gentlemen, thank you.

Jason Liberty

Thanks, Tim.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Joel Simkins of Credit Suisse.

Joel Simkins

Yes. Hey, good morning, and thanks for the update on trends here.

I guess you mentioned the window now for discounts sort of being out as far as 40 days. Is there any thought to sort of extending that a little further?

Do you feel like you could push it at this point given that the consumer seems to be getting used to it and obviously the competitive environment seems to be rational?

Richard Fain

Yes. I think we take these things as they come and we're learning from it.

This is a new program and we need to be a little bit cautious as we roll it out. The rollout has been very encouraging, you've seen that.

We have extended it. We actually look at these and don't make those decisions in advance.

So I wouldn't speculate this to what might be the case in the future. All I can say is that we have felt good about what we've done so far and that's caused us to extend it both in terms of time and also in the areas where we're putting this in place.

And I'm quite comfortable that that is working and we will continue that. I have no comfort as to what we will do in the future, and I think we would simply look at that as that comes to play.

Joel Simkins

Sure. And one follow-up on onboard obviously the trends continue to be very, very strong there.

I guess as you think about onboard and what's driving and I guess how much the overall health of the consumer, how much has been priced and how much has been sort of product and innovation particularly as you renovated some the legacy capacity?

Michael Bayley

Hi. Joel, its Michael.

I think its really all three. I think with certainly in the summer during Q3 both in Europe and Caribbean actually and nearly all of our products, we've seen more spend coming from the consumers.

We've been more I think aggressive with our dynamic pricing model as it relates to pricing onboard which allowed us to take opportunity of some of those moments where people seem to be more willing to spend. I think product mix has been a really major contributor.

The investment over time in terms of building out and changing out different retail options and what not has certainly beginning to help us. So I think really it’s a combination of all three.

It was certainly for the Q3 it was just a really good quarter. And of course China played a big part of that as well.

And we've been very pleased with them. One of the big contributors has been the VOOM, the fastest internet of sea, and we've seen significant increase in our revenues in that area.

Joel Simkins

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Steven Kent of Goldman Sachs.

Steven Kent

Hi. Good morning.

On the pricing integrity program, its not clear to me, is that just for the Royal brand or all of your brands, and when you said, you're rolling it out into Europe and other markets, is that for all of the brands. And that's my first question.

And then on the buyback, can you just talk about how the board looks toward that versus dividends and the discussion there. And then one final thing, just on – can you talk about the earnings potential of your JVs and how that factors in to achieving your Double-Double goals?

Richard Fain

Steve, its Richard, and I'll start on the price integrity program and then I'll ask Jason to answer the other two questions. The price integrity program is for all of our brands across the broad.

It's only in the U.K. and Ireland that we've added it, we haven't added it elsewhere in the world.

But it is in the U.K. and Ireland.

It is for all of our brands.

Jason Liberty

Steven, in terms of on the share buyback versus the dividend, I think that obviously historically we've look at the dividend as kind of the core mechanism to return in capital of the shareholders. And I think there's a recognition that they needed to be a mix of those two things.

And I think that's how we and the board will be considering those mechanisms going forward.

Steven Kent

Just to stay on this for a second, why not be more opportunistic, Jason, versus this accelerated share repurchase, I mean you can't help but see today you're -- I think you're at an all-time high, which is terrific, but why not just wait for the occasional downdraft that seems to happen in this industry?

Jason Liberty

Yes, great question. I think it’s a point to point out.

Two things, one which is the ASR -- the ASR is really for 200 of the 500, and the other 300 we haven't announce how we would go about on doing that. But that's not as definitely something we very much keep in line.

And I think that the share repurchase I think should be an indictor of – again our confidence, the board's confidence and now we see things going forward. As it relates to the joint ventures, you're certainly – we have two key joint ventures, one is TUI AG, our TUI Cruises venture which does and continues to do very, very well.

That is obviously a key contributor to our Double-Double program and our outlook going forward as that brand continues to successfully operate as well as grow. SkySea is really in its infancy.

It just launched this past May. I think – how we contributes to Double-Double, we'll probably be something more on modest basis as we look to grow that – the positioning of that brand in the Chinese market with our partner Ctrip as well as grow that brand over time.

Steven Kent

Thanks.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Kevin Minolta of JPMorgan.

Kevin Minolta

Hey, good morning. Appreciate the time here.

As we look at capacity growth in 2016 picking up a touch here for the fleet. Could you give us a sense for how we should be thinking about net cruise costs on a go-forward basis both with fuel and without?

Thank you.

Jason Liberty

Hey, Kevin. I think we're obviously – we're still in our planning process on both the revenue and cost standpoint.

We will give guidance on cost next year. But I think that you should just generally expect that our focus and rigor on cost has really exceeded well into the culture of the company and you should expect us to behave similarly going forward.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of James Hardiman of Wedbush Securities.

James Hardiman

Hi. Thanks for taking my call.

Two questions from me. First, maybe just little bit of clarification.

Was the repo factored into your original Double-Double plan? I guess another way of asking that, do you think that net income will double 2017 over 2014?

Richard Fain

When we gave the Double-Double and I would remind you that it is both net income and ROIC, we didn't caveat that with what actions we would take over the market takes. We're not adjusting it for fuel, foreign exchange, share repurchases or anything we might be doing, we've really just said, it's the target.

And the one, the earnings per share would be impacted by share repurchases, but the ROIC, I would point out is not impacted by share repurchases as well.

James Hardiman

But just to clarify, I think you just said that the expectation was that net income would double, not just EPS?

Richard Fain

No, no, we try to be explicit. We have two targets and they are exactly what we've said, which is adjusted earnings per share would double that is it would get to $6.78 by – for the year 2014.

And ROIC would reach double-digits, i.e. that it would be 10.00 [ph] or 1% or better by 2017.

And those are two targets that we're using internally, essential we will take what actions we should operationally and the world will give us what it would give us, whether that's foreign exchange gains or losses, it's been bad, but whatever it is fuel or whatever it is et cetera.

James Hardiman

Got it. Very helpful.

And then my second question was on the price integrity program. You said in the prepared remarks that it's cost you a bit in 2015 and will cost a bit more in 2016.

Are you saying obviously the program is going to help with pricing and hurt on the occupancy front? Do you saying that the net effect of those two has been a negative and will continue to be a negative in 2016 or is just that its cost you a bit on the occupancy side.

And I guess related question, occupancy step down a bit in the second quarter and was down again in the third quarter. I'm assuming that's a function of the price integrity program are safe today, safe to say that's going to be continue to down until you lap that maybe second quarter next year and then resume growth or how should you be thinking about that?

Richard Fain

Yes. I think your description was accurate that we think that the price integrity program probably helps us on the rate, but hurts us on the volume.

And so the net effect of that in 2015 and 2016 would be negative on our total revenue. So, I think your articulation was exactly correct.

In terms of the actual occupancy that you are experiencing especially by quarter, I think there are so many other factors that the price integrity program would not be a significant part of that. And so, to the extent that its down or up in any quarter, that will be really driven by our yield managers and our yield management system.

The price integrity program would be a de minimis part of that.

James Hardiman

Make sense. And maybe just a follow-up there then, so as we think about the net being negative into 2016, should we sort of think about that as a negative most significantly in the first quarter and then once we lap that maybe it becomes a positive beyond that or how should we think about that?

Jason Liberty

Hey, James, it's Jason. I think the way that you need to look at is first off, we're talking about very, very small numbers here in terms of what we believe the impact is on this program on a negative basis and we expect to see that continue, because these programs are continuing to rollout to more product, into more markets.

And as we said previously we expect that to kind of lap in and move into a positive direction in 2017. And when we talk about the effect, we really do talk about on an occupancy because as Richard mentioned in his remarks, its what we can measure, but we do think that this is really changing the conversation with the guest who have booked and behave in the way that we wanting them and also helping us expand out the booking window to position us for stronger pricing.

James Hardiman

Excellent. Thanks guys.

Jason Liberty

Thanks, James.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line Robin Farley of UBS.

Robin Farley

Great. Thanks.

A couple of questions. First is I wonder what the Pullmantur write-down if you could quantify, it looks like their write-down will end up adding to EPS in future years, because you're eliminating some things that would have run through the depreciation and amortization line.

So could you just help guide us little bit what that will add EPS each year having taken the write-down? And then, a question on China, this is a topic, not totally exhausted yet.

We had a recent analysis out and in our channel checks we had heard some of the distributors there maybe not getting as large of markup, but that is, in our view is not a negative for Royal or for pricing since its not really a commission model, it was the charter model there. So is it fair to say that that's going to be the same.

it's still primarily going to be charter model for next year, so the width of the travel sellers markup is not really something that's a negative for you guys? And then I may have one more question after that, thanks.

Jason Liberty

Hey, Robin, it's Jason. I'll take the Pullmantur question.

Really the majority of the other write-off were again it was a non-cash write off and it was relating to intangibles that were not amortizing or depreciating in any way. There is a portion of that that it relates to some of the ships.

It would probably help us by couple of cents going forward, because it's not just about write-down, it also some adjustments in the residuals as we look at those assets going forward. But it’s a couple of cents.

It's not material.

Michael Bayley

Hi, Robin, it's Michael. I'll answer the question on the China and the distribution markup, Yes, I think there was a period when we had the MERS outbreak in Korea and then we have the triple typhoon impact, and then of course we have the explosion in Tianjin, so we had a period of about – I'm going to guess, its about three months or so where it was a little wobbly because of all of these events.

And then of course we had many of the distributors have this charter or group resell relationship with us and I think many of our competitors. So during that period I think some of them incurred losses, that didn't flow through to us, but of course it impacts us because they are long term partners.

And so we worked on strategies to help them through that and to ensure we're in a good place for 2016, but it didn't really have a financial impact to us. And of course the model is really quite different in China in relation to the distribution.

But one of the things that we've been actively working on is expanding the distribution and opening up that channel through various strategies which of course it’s a long term play but we feel like we're on a good track to broaden that channel.

Robin Farley

Great. That's very helpful.

Thanks and maybe just a last question. Just looking at the full-year EPS and on the full-year EPS went up by $0.10 and the beat in Q3 was $0.14.

I think you mentioned kind of $0.02 was maybe borrowed from expenses shifting. If there another $0.02 of -- because I think FX and fuel kind of net out.

There are another $0.02 of your yield outlook in Q4 that maybe that would Pullmantur Latin America that was just that hair lower than previous just to clarify? Thanks.

Richard Fain

Hi, Robin -- so just to clarify it’s really a combination of Latin America and a little bit later on the Australia, New Zealand product just due to the level of capacity that’s in there that’s driving the differential.

Robin Farley

That’s great. Thank you very much.

Richard Fain

Thanks, Robin.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Jamie Katz of Morningstar.

Jamie Katz

Good morning, thanks for taking my questions. With moving from capacity back to Spain and launching Harmony in the market next year, I'm curious what you guys are seeing in that local market, and then generally how you're feeling about European demand for next summer.

Jason Liberty

Sure, hey Jamie, it’s Jason. As it relates to you know the capacity going in to the Barcelona market, first off for Harmony, it’s a really global sourced product while and it doesn’t really compete directly with Pullmantur and that’s putting some more capacity into Spain.

And by the way when we say for more capacity it focuses on Spain, it doesn’t necessarily mean it’s sailing out of the Western Mediterranean could be sailing out of different places sourcing guests from Spain. And then when you look at the European customer, we’ve actually seen very good signs and trends that were still early for the European products coming from Europe as well as that continued strength we’ve seen over the past couple of years from the North American consumer who has been highly attracted to European sailings?

Jamie Katz

And then I'm curious, you guys hire a few months ago. Have there been any thoughts on changes to the marketing strategy and how to attract consumers going forward, or has it been pretty static?

Michael Bayley

Oh hi, Jamie it’s Michael. Yes, we are very pleased to welcome Jim to Royal Caribbean International a few months ago and he’s been very busy.

You may have seen, we just launched our new campaign “Come Seek” for Royal Caribbean International that’s come literally into market this week. And hopefully you’ll see us go a slightly different twist towards it, and the way we are approaching the market with this idea of come seek and the imagery and the kind of TV commercials, radio and digital that we are putting into the market has tested exceptionally well, not only with existing cruises but probably more importantly with new to cruise.

So part of our focus is on the new to cruise markets and I think you’ll start to see that in the marketing that comes from Royal Caribbean International over the coming period and that really is being led and directed by our new CMO.

Jamie Katz

And then lastly, can you guys add any color on Celebrity, I know you usually don’t break it up but I’m curious if those consumers are performing disparately or incrementally better than the Royal Caribbean passengers and the willingness to spend is a little bit higher?

Richard Fain

I’m quite happy to actually -- I think one of the things that has us feeling pretty good is just how well our brands are being received in the market place and Celebrity is a good example of that. Michael is here himself has [Indiscernible] is how his brand is doing, but atleast if we are here, she would say exactly the same.

It’s really, and Michael mentioned that he has a new ad campaign coming out so has Lisa and she’s -- here’s is actually been out for the longer and its being received quite well. So I think we are really seeing except for geographic issues like Latin America we are really seeing our brands doing quite nicely in their respective markets, and the Celebrity brand has been holding its own and I think -- now it’s also been affected by the geographies because it for example has had more volume in particularly in the Eastern Mediterranean this year.

So you will see changes, we see changes between brands. We see a lot of changes between brands and between different geographies which is just a normal fact of doing business, and I think we sometimes read too much into it particularly because we’ve historically been so surprisingly accurate.

I mean, I think for us to come in looking like and the year is so close to being over. We’re pretty confident about looking to be in the range of 3.5% yield improvement that is essentially exactly where we predicted it at the beginning of the year.

And I wish I could say that we were that accurate. Its’ simply the margin of error in these things is a little bigger than that and we have been fortunate that the plusses have offset the minuses, but overall I think that’s not unusual for us and I would expect that to continue.

Jamie Katz

Thank you.

Richard Fain

All right we have time for one more question.

Operator

And your final question will come from the line of Ian Rennardson of Jefferies

Ian Rennardson

Thank you. Good afternoon from England.

My question is regarding the share buyback. I’m assuming that the 500 million isn’t a one-off and I wondered how you calculated what ratios you’ve used to calculate that 500 and what sort of ratios you will be thinking about as being applicable for the medium term?

Thank you.

Jason Liberty

Ian, could you clarify what you mean by ratios?

Ian Rennardson

Well net debt-to-EBITDA or…

Jason Liberty

Oh, I’m sorry. Okay, great.

Yeah, so we still are very much focussed on getting to your 3.75 times net debt-to-EBITDA and we see ourselves progressing towards that, towards the end of next year as we consider these buybacks. So we see this buyback a little bit of as a timing opportunity in terms of buying back shares.

Ian Rennardson

Okay, thank you.

Richard Fain

And I will just add, I think as Jason said earlier we would reiterate our objective is to get to that investment grade. And obviously almost anything that we do that involves capital including ordering ships or buying back shares makes it a little more difficult but we think that the move towards investment grade is so inexorable that we can balance those things.

Ian Rennardson

Okay. Thank you and I think we’ll just finish off on that.

I think in 2007 seen you only have $500 million of CapEx projected which is significantly lower than the other year, does that have any thinking on your medium to longer term thinking on share buybacks?

Richard Fain

No you know it’s interesting because one of the interesting because one of the interesting features of our business is CapEx tends to come in big bunches and whether a ship delivers in January or December makes a huge difference on the numbers you just quoted. We don’t tend to look at it that way, I think it’s we made a decision '17 was a year that had no ship deliveries, but then we start having deliveries again in '18.

And so I think that’s simply a coincidence '17 worked out that way.

Ian Rennardson

Okay. Thank you.

Great.

Jason Liberty

All right. Thank you for your assistance Lawry [ph] with the call today.

And we thank all of you for your participation and interest in the company. Carol and Laura will be with her.

We’ll be available for any follow ups you might have during the day, and I wish you all a great day.

Operator

Thank you for participating in the Royal Caribbean Cruises Limited 2015 third quarter earnings call. You may now disconnect.

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