Madison Square Garden Sports Corp.

Madison Square Garden Sports Corp.

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Q4 FY2026 · Earnings Call TranscriptAugust 13, 2026

Operator

Good morning. Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Madison Square Garden Sports Corp fiscal 26 fourth quarter and year end earnings conference call.

At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session.

I would now like to turn the call over to Ari Danes, Investor Relations. Ari?

Please go ahead.

Ari Danes

Thank you. Good morning, and welcome.

To MSG Sports fiscal 26 fourth quarter and year end earnings conference call. Our Chief Operating Officer, Jamaal T.

Lesane will begin this morning's call with a discussion on the company's strategy and operations as well as an update on the company's proposed spin off of its Rangers business. This will be followed by a review of our financial results, with Paul DiCicco, our EVP, chief financial officer, and treasurer.

After our prepared remarks, we will open up the call for questions. If you do not have a copy of today's earnings release, it is available in the Investors section of our corporate website.

Please take note of the following. Today's discussion may contain forward looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 2 thousand Any such forward looking statements are not guarantees of future performance or results and involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in the forward looking statements.

Please refer to the company's filings with the SEC for a discussion of risks and uncertainties. The company disclaims any obligation to update any forward looking statements that may be discussed during this call.

On Pages 4 and 5 of today's earnings release, we provide consolidated statements of operations and a reconciliation of operating income to adjusted operating income or AOI. A non GAAP financial measure.

And with that, I will now turn the call over to Jamaal.

Jamaal T. Lesane

Thank you, Ari. And good morning, everyone.

I am pleased to be here with you all today. Following a fiscal year that culminated with the Knicks winning an NBA championship.

Before I dive further into the Knicks season, I would like to take a moment to discuss an important plan that we announced since we last spoke in February. Potential spin off of our Rangers business from our Knicks business.

This transaction would create 2 distinct publicly traded companies enabling shareholders to more clearly evaluate each company's assets and growth prospects. It would also provide both with enhanced strategic and financial flexibility.

In May, we confidentially filed a Form 10 registration statement with the SEC regarding the proposed spin off. We anticipate publicly filing an updated Form 10 statement this week.

And currently expect to complete the spin off by the end of October. Subject to various conditions including board approval.

We will continue to keep you updated on our progress. Now let's discuss our operations in more detail.

For fiscal 26, MSG Sports generated full year revenues of approximately $1.2 billion and adjusted operating income of nearly $59 million. These results reflect robust consumer and corporate demand throughout the regular season.

And, of course, the impact the Knicks championship run. The Knicks playoff run took over New York City, From electric crowds in arena for home games, to watch parties at various locations throughout the city, to unique activations our marketing partners.

All culminating with the championship parade attended by millions of fans. With this unprecedented momentum, we achieved a number of operational milestones during the postseason.

To share a few highlights, on the ticketing front, the Knicks set new league wide records with the highest per game gate revenues in NBA history. On multiple occasions during the playoffs.

With respect to merchandise, within the first 24 hours of clinching the NBA title, the Knicks generated its highest ever single day of merchandise sales. With this robust demand continuing, in the weeks that have followed, And we added over 2.2 million net new social media followers this past year.

Bringing the Knicks and Rangers combined following to nearly 22 million by the end of June. And this interest was not just limited to New York.

Nationwide, the championship series became the most watched NBA finals in 28 years. While fan enthusiasm reached new highs during the playoffs, the demand for both the Knicks and Rangers was evident throughout the regular seasons which we expect to carry forward in fiscal 27.

In terms of ticketing, we saw higher pregame revenue year over year during the 2025/2026 regular seasons. Looking ahead to the upcoming seasons, we are off to a strong start with season ticket renewals.

And we expect our combined season ticket renewal rate to once again reach levels above 90%. I would note that consistent with our past practice, we have made the decision to not raise season ticket prices for the rangers.

As the team did not qualify for the playoffs. But we did raise season ticket prices for the Knicks, This past fiscal year, we also celebrated the Rangers' centennial season, which will culminate with the Rangers' 100th anniversary capstone game at the Garden in November against the Montreal Canadiens.

That game will also mark 100th anniversary of the date of the Rangers' first ever game also against the Montreal franchise. In addition, we continue unique merchandise collaborations with brands such as Kith, New Era/Nowhere for both the Knicks and Rangers.

These initiatives help drive robust year over year growth in merchandise per cap spending at the arena for fiscal 26. As compared to the prior year.

We also saw fan enthusiasm throughout the fiscal year translate into higher food and beverage per cap spending year over year at the arena. In terms of marketing partnerships, fiscal 26 was highlighted by a number of significant new sales and renewals.

We signed new multiyear partnerships with PwC and Polymarket and reached multiyear renewals with Lexus, Anheuser Busch, and Infosys. And in our premium hospitality business, we also saw a strong new sales and renewal activity for suites at the garden which included a number of Lexus level suites that were renovated at the start of the fiscal year.

Building on this successful initiative, several more suites in the process of being renovated. Which we expect to drive incremental revenue for our business in fiscal 27.

As we look ahead to the upcoming seasons, the Rangers have had a productive summer including acquiring forward Pavel Dorofeyev, and defenseman Mark Pysyk and Sean Durzi. We look forward to the Ranger's 2026/2027 regular season campaign getting underway this fall.

In the Knicks, will begin with the special banner raising celebration in October, to tip-off the season as defending champions. So in summary, we are proud to have seen the Knicks deliver this year's championship for our fans, partners, employees, and shareholders.

And as we pursue a spin off of our Rangers business, we remain confident in our ability to drive long term shareholder value. I would now like to introduce Paul DiCicco, our new EVP chief financial officer, and treasurer.

Paul is a seasoned executive with 30 years of experience in a range of global finance roles. His proven track record of strategic financial leadership is an asset to our company, and we are pleased to have him on board.

With that, I will now turn the call over to Paul.

Paul DiCicco

Thank you, Jamaal, and good morning, everyone. I am pleased to join you here today in my new role at MSG Sports during such an exciting time for the company.

For fiscal 26, we generated total revenues of $1.15 billion and adjusted operating income of $58.7 million Results for the fiscal fourth quarter reflect the same number of regular season and playoff home games. As compared to the prior year period.

That includes the completion of the 25, 26 regular seasons followed by the Knicks playoff run to the finals. Which compared to reaching the Eastern Conference finals in fiscal 25.

For the fiscal 2026 fourth quarter, total revenues were $278.7 million as compared to $24 million in the prior year period. Event related revenues of $200.7 million which mainly consist of ticket, food, beverage, and merchandise revenues, inclusive of playoffs increased 43% year over year.

Tweets, sponsorship, and signage revenues also inclusive of the playoffs were $39.1 million, an increase of 23% year over year. National and local media rights fees of $27.7 million were essentially unchanged year over year.

This primarily reflected our amended local telecast rights agreement with MSG Networks as well as a decrease in the number of games exclusively available to MSG Networks during the current year as compared to the prior year. These decreases were offset by higher national media rights fees due to the NBA's new national media rights deals.

Adjusted operating income was $39.6 million as compared to adjusted operating loss of $16.8 million in the prior year quarter which reflected the increases in revenues partially offset by higher SG&A and direct operating expenses. The increase in costs primarily reflects higher playoff related expenses.

I would note that SG&A also reflects to a lesser extent, $2.9 million in expenses related to the proposed spin off transaction This overall increase in cost was partially offset by a decrease in net provisions for certain key personnel transactions recognized in the prior year quarter. As we look ahead, we believe our business is poised to deliver revenue growth across all enteric categories in fiscal 27.

In addition, we expect our results to also reflect our continued investment in our teams as well as higher revenue sharing expense. I would also add the NHL's new collective bargaining agreement takes effect the 26, 27 season.

As a result, we will have 1 more regular season home game and 1 fewer preseason home game by the Rangers in fiscal 27. Turning to our balance sheet.

At the end of the quarter, our cash balance was approximately $164.5 million and our debt balance was $258.5 million This was comprised of $242 million under the NICS senior secured revolving credit facility and $16.5 million advanced from the NHL. So in summary, we remain pleased with the demand we are seeing for our teams as we also pursue the potential separation of our businesses, we are confident will position us well to drive long term value for our shareholders.

I will now turn the call back over to Ari.

Ari Danes

Operator, can we now open up the call for questions?

Operator

We will now begin the question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press 1 to raise your hand.

To withdraw your question, please press 1 again. We ask that you pick up your handset when asking a question to allow for optimum sound quality.

If you are muted locally, please remember to unmute your device. Please standby while we compile the Q&A roster.

Your first question comes from the line of David Karnovsky with JPMorgan. Your line is open.

Please go ahead.

David Karnoff

Hi. Thank you.

And I would be the first to say congrats on the Knicks championship. So regarding the New York Rangers spin off, can you speak a bit more to the rationale here?

And should investors read this as a willingness to sell minority stakes in the teams And then relatedly, with the pending tax law change, why enter this benefit now creates a tax challenge across 2 public companies? Thank you.

Jamaal T. Lesane

Good morning, David, and thank you for those congratulations. With respect to your first question, we believe that our proposed spin off as I mentioned earlier, would enable shareholders to more clearly evaluate each company's assets and growth prospects.

You know, as it relates to a minority stake sale at potential for minority stake sale on either team, our position has not changed from what we have articulated on previous calls. We continue to be confident in the value of our teams, We are as confident as ever in that respect.

And continue to be reported transactions in the marketplace that demonstrate that value and scarcity of these assets And so as I said before, we would never rule out the possibility of a minority stake sale. But we do not have anything further to report at this time in that regard.

Now the takeaway here, David, is that this transaction will provide both companies with enhanced strategic and financial flexibility. Thanks, Steven.

Operator

I will take the second part of your question.

Paul DiCicco

You know, As we discussed earlier just now, we believe the proposed spin will create long term value for our shareholders. We are certainly mindful of the implications that the tax laws would have.

Each company after the separation. But with that being said, as Jamaal just said, the proposed spin off does create provide you know, provides both companies with strategic and financial flexibility such as enhancing each company's ability to access funding for liquidity, particularly as we take into account the implications for our business from these tax law changes.

Okay.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Cameron Mansson-Perrone with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.

Please go ahead.

Analyst

Thanks. Morning.

2, if I could. First, on local media rights, there is you know, a range of evolving approaches across leagues and teams right now between traditional RSN distribution, full DTC as we are seeing with the Braves, leagues trying to centrally manage and package rights.

Jamaal, what is your what is your latest thinking about those various options and what makes sense from your perspective for the MSGS teams over time? And are there any league specific factors we should consider that might make the approach different?

For the Knicks relative to the Rangers, or are you thinking about both teams and local rights in a similar from a similar lens. And then I have a follow-up.

Jamaal T. Lesane

Sure. Thanks for that, Cameron.

And great to meet you. You know, as you mentioned, there is a lot going on.

But with respect to the NICS and the Rangers local distribution, we have a great partner in MSC Networks. And our agreements with them run through the 28, 29 seasons.

And 1 of the things that makes them a great partner is that they help us stay connected with our local fans. Which is of paramount importance to us.

We are also supporting of what they have been doing on the distribution front, including their new partnership with DAZN, which is a premier streaming platform. And with that, you know, we are not going to speculate on lead plans.

We believe in the value of local media coverage. We believe in the value of content that is tailored to local markets.

And as such, we remain confident in our position as a rights holder for these 2 marquee sports franchises.

Analyst

Gregg. Appreciate that.

Follow-up was just on the question about the future potential tax obligations. Any help quantifying that incremental tax impact for each team when those changes take effect?

I guess, assuming current payrolls remain unchanged at each team?

Paul DiCicco

Sure, Cameron. I will take that 1.

Nice to meet you as well. So we continue to assess the impact of these tax law changes on our business.

But just a quick reminder, these become effective for our fiscal year end June 30, 2028. So with that in mind, excluding the impact of the proposed spin off, we currently estimate these changes result in approximately $60 million in additional income tax expense for that fiscal year.

that is fiscal year 28. If the proposed spin off is completed, we know, the combined income tax expense across the 2 companies will certainly be higher.

I do think it is important to note though as you kind of alluded to. The final impact will largely depend on the team rosters at that point in time.

Got it.

Analyst

that is all helpful. Thanks both.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of David Joyce with Seaport Research Partners. Your line is open.

Please go ahead.

David Joyce

Thank you. Well, that was an exciting quarter.

Can you help us understand some more of the financial impacts on the revenues, expenses and AOI from that championship run? And subsequent to the win there was you talk about not encroaching the next apron.

So could you please also give us some operating expense outlook for the next fiscal year, including on the player comp? Thanks.

Paul DiCicco

Sure. David.

I will take those questions, and work through those for you. Yeah.

The championship run resulted in a significant incremental business for our company as evidenced in our results today. To give a little bit more context, I will touch on a few areas.

And I will start with tickets. Playoff tickets are priced at a premium to their regular season games with increases each round.

As Jamal noted earlier, the Knicks set new NBA records for the per game gate revenues. Our per cap spending on F and B and merchandise during the playoffs is typically higher than regular season averages.

But we noted-- it was a notable acceleration during the championship series. Nope.

What was interesting is we hosted 9 playoff games in this past quarter of the Garden. Which is the same number of games as the prior year when the Knicks advanced to the Eastern Conference finals.

And just to compare those results related playoff revenues for the year's fourth quarter were $182 million compared to $115.2 million the prior year period. that is roughly $20.2 million in average per game revenues including the benefits of robust non game day merchandise sales.

On the flip side, right, there are additional costs in connection with being in the playoffs. We saw approximately $11.2 million on average per game related to direct operating expense.

As well as marketing and administrative costs. 1 quick point I want to make.

I will not get into all the specifics, but I know the last quarter were increasing expenses for playoffs associated with making the finals and winning the championship. Just to plan to close out on the thread of where we think about that goes.

We expect to increase enthusiasm from our fans and partners to create tailwinds across every aspect of our business for fiscal 27, like tickets, sponsorship suites, as well as food and beverage and merchandise sales. The focus on the second part of your question really around operating expenses.

I am not going to provide specific guidance, but I will you know, we do expect our results for 2027 to reflect higher team compensation and luxury tax. As you know, the NBA salary cap had increased $10.4 million for the 20 sixth, 20 seventh season.

While the NHL cap increased $8.5 million In addition to that, the NBA luxury tax threshold for the 2026-2027 season increased $12.5 million to approximately $200.4 million it is important reminder that this is measured based on the roster at the end of the season. The other area I have mentioned earlier, we also anticipate increased revenue share expense in fiscal 2027.

Really twofold, really. 1 is this reflects our current expectations for ongoing revenue growth.

Excluding the impact of playoffs. In addition, it will partly be due to the impact of the new NHL CBA that goes into effect in the upcoming season.

That new CBA slightly changed the calculation for rev share, and is expected to result in higher revenue sharing expense for the Rangers. Thanks for the questions, David.

Jamaal T. Lesane

Operator, we will take the next caller.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Joseph Robert Stauff with Susquehanna. Your line is open.

Please go ahead.

Joseph Robert Stauff

Thank you. Good morning.

I just wanted to maybe follow-up on David's previous question a little bit more detail. Can I ask on the sponsorship outlook this coming season, what it looks like, especially considering the Knicks win, and what that does for you in terms of both pricing and any added inventory and how we think about that number in particular for fiscal 2027?

Thanks, Joe.

Jamaal T. Lesane

I am actually I am glad you touched on that. And just look looking back just a little bit, We saw overwhelming demand from our partners during the championship run.

And that included not just the obvious presence in our arenas for those exhilarating home games, but it also included the opportunity for them to activate at our viewing parties around the city And then even on the road where we hosted a number of partners in Cleveland for the Eastern Conference finals in San Antonio for the NBA finals. All culminating with giving many of our partners a present during the championship parade celebration.

And so all of that had 2 effects. 1, that valuable time spent enhances our relationship with our partners, and it improves the value proposition moving forward.

And then 2, we saw sponsorship revenues more than double year over year during the postseason. And so looking ahead, not only do we expect to see the run rate benefit from our fiscal 26 year for our fiscal 26 deals in the year ahead but the Knicks win should actually enable us to sell more sponsorships So in short, Joe, while we are not providing specific guidance, as we look to fiscal 27, we are seeing great momentum and believe that we are well positioned to drive another year of growth.

Thanks for the question, Joel. Operator, we will take 1 final caller.

Operator

Your last question comes from the line of Tyler DiMatteo with BTIG. Your line is open.

Please go ahead.

Tyler DiMatteo

Hi, and good morning. Thank you for taking the questions.

I have 2 here. I wanted to start on the NHL side of things.

I guess how should we think about the new Rogers deal kicking in this season and potential financial impact on that? And then along with that, I guess, you have any early thoughts on the potential new U.

S. NHL deal and the renewal of it following the existing deal that concludes next year?

Jamaal T. Lesane

Hey, Tyler. I will take that 1.

So to your they? First part of your question, the NHL begins a new 12-year media rights agreement with the Rogers Communications this upcoming season.

And they, the NHL, will see a step up in average annual value for its Canadian media rights with annual escalators thereafter. And so we will see an increase in our share of those media rights-- those media rights fees.

And kind of to piggyback into the second part of your question, in terms of the NHL US deals, the current agreements run through the 2027-2028 season, and we continue to believe in the value of live professional sports content. We expect the NHL will maximize that opportunity.

Tyler DiMatteo

Okay. Gregg.

And then secondarily here, I guess, you have any early thoughts? Or how do you think about the potential financial impact of domestic expansion for the NBA or NHL?

And I guess what that could mean for your business and the contribution?

Jamaal T. Lesane

Yeah. I will not comment on the NBA, NHL strategy and whether that occurs or not.

But I will say if an expansion does occur, you know, as it has in the past, if an expansion were to occur, any potential expansion fees in the NBA would be divided equally among the 30 existing NBA teams. And vice versa Any potential expansion fees in the NHL would be divided among the existing 32 NHL teams.

From a league distributions perspective, including revenue from the national media rights agreements, those would be divided pro rata amongst the increased number of teams following any potential expansion There are no further questions at this time.

Operator

I will now turn the call back to Ari for closing remarks.

Ari Danes

Thank you all for joining us. We look forward to speaking with you on our next earnings call.

Have a good day.

Operator

This concludes today's call. Thank you for attending.

You may now disconnect.